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Or maybe it's not just a craze and we'll soon look back and think "I wonder what we might've done differently if we'd been clear-eyed about what was happening."

matherial 21d ago
Show me a person who truly revised their priors to put forward a novel solution to AI that isn't just "do the thing that I like and that benefits me in some way". The discourse around all this is a mix of quasi-religious beliefs (pro and con) and blatant opportunism. For Dario and Sam, the solution is "give us a monopoly on this tech". For Gates, it's "create an supranational organization with unprecedented taxation and regulatory powers" - world AI police, presumably staffed by technocrats like him. What's your take? Do the ideas put forward by Gates strike you as worth pursuing? What are the trade-offs - how can they go wrong?
- ryeights 21d ago
  https://www.pacingthefrontier.com/ https://www.pacingthefrontier.com/ https://ai-2040.com https://ai-2040.com Can you describe a method of slowing frontier AI development that you yourself would not classify as monopoly-seeking by US AI companies or power-seeking by governments and technocrats? Limiting the development of powerful AI requires restricting free enterprise in some way, backed by the threat of force; hence, there will always be a cynical framing available.
  - pona-a 21d ago
    In the case of the US AI industry, how about some stricter banking laws to forbid its current circular financing?
  - harimau777 21d ago
    Many people would be fine with restricting free enterprise. It hasn't exactly given us great quality of life, at least in America.
- dgellow 21d ago
  > Do the ideas put forward by Gates strike you as worth pursuing? What are the trade-offs - how can they go wrong? I agree. However, why aren’t we applying the same standard to AI technologies themselves? That doesn’t strike me as worth pursuing, the article discusses all the ways that is and will go wrong
outworlder 21d ago
Unless there's another significant breakthrough, LLMs will only get incremental improvements.
- reasonableklout 21d ago
  Do they need more than incremental breakthroughs to transform society?
  - dgellow 21d ago
    They don’t even need breakthroughs, it’s already damaging to societies

matherial 21d ago

Show me a person who truly revised their priors to put forward a novel solution to AI that isn't just "do the thing that I like and that benefits me in some way". The discourse around all this is a mix of quasi-religious beliefs (pro and con) and blatant opportunism. For Dario and Sam, the solution is "give us a monopoly on this tech". For Gates, it's "create an supranational organization with unprecedented taxation and regulatory powers" - world AI police, presumably staffed by technocrats like him. What's your take? Do the ideas put forward by Gates strike you as worth pursuing? What are the trade-offs - how can they go wrong?

ryeights 21d ago
https://www.pacingthefrontier.com/ https://www.pacingthefrontier.com/ https://ai-2040.com https://ai-2040.com Can you describe a method of slowing frontier AI development that you yourself would not classify as monopoly-seeking by US AI companies or power-seeking by governments and technocrats? Limiting the development of powerful AI requires restricting free enterprise in some way, backed by the threat of force; hence, there will always be a cynical framing available.
- pona-a 21d ago
  In the case of the US AI industry, how about some stricter banking laws to forbid its current circular financing?
- harimau777 21d ago
  Many people would be fine with restricting free enterprise. It hasn't exactly given us great quality of life, at least in America.
dgellow 21d ago
> Do the ideas put forward by Gates strike you as worth pursuing? What are the trade-offs - how can they go wrong? I agree. However, why aren’t we applying the same standard to AI technologies themselves? That doesn’t strike me as worth pursuing, the article discusses all the ways that is and will go wrong

outworlder 21d ago

Unless there's another significant breakthrough, LLMs will only get incremental improvements.

reasonableklout 21d ago
Do they need more than incremental breakthroughs to transform society?
- dgellow 21d ago
  They don’t even need breakthroughs, it’s already damaging to societies