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We have cell phones and satellite imagery now. We can also trace the endless deluge of articles with their citations and see almost every single one ends up at

We have cell phones and satellite imagery now. We can also trace the endless deluge of articles with their citations and see almost every single one ends up at a thinktank laundering the Zenz report. There is an actual genocide in Palestine right now where we watch in HD as missiles are leveling apartment blocks and ripping apart the families of doctors while they tend to the wounded. There is also a war in Ukraine where we can watch the destruction of vast swaths of land and people in a WWI esque meat grinder. What did we have for Xinjiang besides a whole lot of "trust-me"s from known anti-communism orgs? A few interviews? a couple pictures of prisoners?

inigyou 21d ago
Since they're not just blowing up the whole place, what would we expect to see from a satellite if it's true?
- MSFT_Edging 20d ago
  Genocide-level infrastructure? If there were satellite photos of extensive camps, why wouldn't we be shown? We got to see one or two possible camps, but they were disassembled. People can travel in Xinjiang. I've seen the increased security on display in those videos, but it was primarily local police keeping tabs on the tourist to avoid some international incident. When something real happens, you see many different sources reporting on it. People share it on social media, multiple agencies report first hand. When the state department is trying to influence discussion, it's all think tanks.
  - inigyou 20d ago
    You think every genocide has an Auschwitz and if it doesn't have an Auschwitz it can't be a genocide?
    - MSFT_Edging 20d ago
      That's a very incorrect reading of what I was trying to say. I was saying if it was more than a state department propaganda operation, we'd see a lot more coming out. The reporting is starkly different from even reports coming out of Myanmar with the ethnic violence against the Rohingya(which barely gets any attention as-is).

inigyou 21d ago

Since they're not just blowing up the whole place, what would we expect to see from a satellite if it's true?

MSFT_Edging 20d ago
Genocide-level infrastructure? If there were satellite photos of extensive camps, why wouldn't we be shown? We got to see one or two possible camps, but they were disassembled. People can travel in Xinjiang. I've seen the increased security on display in those videos, but it was primarily local police keeping tabs on the tourist to avoid some international incident. When something real happens, you see many different sources reporting on it. People share it on social media, multiple agencies report first hand. When the state department is trying to influence discussion, it's all think tanks.
- inigyou 20d ago
  You think every genocide has an Auschwitz and if it doesn't have an Auschwitz it can't be a genocide?
  - MSFT_Edging 20d ago
    That's a very incorrect reading of what I was trying to say. I was saying if it was more than a state department propaganda operation, we'd see a lot more coming out. The reporting is starkly different from even reports coming out of Myanmar with the ethnic violence against the Rohingya(which barely gets any attention as-is).