7 ms·
Then you cannot use Linux, Firefox, Chromium, Python, Rust, LLVM and so on. Hurd can't be used either. Maybe you have to switch to FreeDOS?
by someaccount1234 22d ago
Then you cannot use Linux, Firefox, Chromium, Python, Rust, LLVM and so on. Hurd can't be used either.
Maybe you have to switch to FreeDOS?
- lproven 22d agoNetBSD is right there.
- someaccount1234 22d agoNetBSD has no alternative to Chromium, Firefox, LLVM, Rust or Python. They use AI-generated software too, including in the base system.
- lproven 22d agoThis is simply not true. NetBSD includes Firefox: https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/www/firefox/index.html https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/www/firefox... And Chromium: https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/www/chromium/index.html https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/www/chromiu... And LLVM: https://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/lang/llvm/index.html https://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/lang/llvm/i... And Python: https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/lang/python311/index.html https://cdn.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/current/pkgsrc/lang/python... In fact, the only thing that you mentioned that is not in its ports collection is a Rust compiler, as far as I can see. Code generated with LLMs is explicitly forbidden. I wrote about that last year: https://www.theregister.com/software/2024/05/18/gentoo-and-netbsd-ban-ai-code-but-debian-doesnt-yet/1434665 https://www.theregister.com/software/2024/05/18/gentoo-and-n... It's in the guidelines: https://www.netbsd.org/developers/commit-guidelines.html https://www.netbsd.org/developers/commit-guidelines.html « Code generated by a large language model or similar technology, such as GitHub/Microsoft's Copilot, OpenAI's ChatGPT, or Facebook/Meta's Code Llama, is presumed to be tainted code, and must not be committed without prior written approval by core. » I don't know of any such thing getting approval. Yes, like OpenBSD, things might get grandfathered in. OpenBSD includes `tmux`. Tmux includes bot-assisted commits. I wrote about that too: https://www.theregister.com/software/2026/05/25/openbsd-79-arrives-a-diamond-in-the-rough-proud-of-every-sharp-edge/5244877 https://www.theregister.com/software/2026/05/25/openbsd-79-a...
- steveklabnik 22d agoYou are mistaken about what your parent is saying: they're saying that if you want a system untouched by LLMs, you must provide alternatives to those things, because those things have LLM-generated code in them.
- natebc 22d ago[dead]
- lproven 21d agoOh, I see what you mean, now. All right: conceded -- that is true.
- steveklabnik 21d agoYeah, just to be clear, I am not your parent, I just saw Rust mentioned and realized what was going on in this conversation, ha.