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> very low sugar, more veggies Wearing a glucose monitor for a while showed me that some veggies are worse than the usual suspects: 80g of rice with fish gave

> very low sugar, more veggies Wearing a glucose monitor for a while showed me that some veggies are worse than the usual suspects: 80g of rice with fish gave me a glucose spike higher than a Nutella sandwich. Other veggies, like beans, surprisingly low.

kakacik 22d ago
Rice is not a veggie ffs, its not very healthy even in its best forms. Just a lot of simpler sugars. You are not doing anything healthy by eating it, and that glucose spike is very much expected just like from other junk food.
- otherme123 22d ago
  Rice is consumed a lot, and it has more things than "a lot of simple sugars". In fact, any "veggie" book would include many of recipes with rice, rice flour or rice noodles, as they are usually based in Asian cuisine. Also, as the current hell is gluten, some recipes suggest replacing wheat with rice. It is common knowledge in the vegan world to pair lentils with rice, as they complement (rice is low lysine, high in methionine, lentils the other way). Lentils includes fiber that lowers the glycemic index of the overall meal, but also rice eases the otherwise heavy digestion of lentils. They both pair in other micronutrients (iron, zinc, selenium, magnesium, potassium).
  - annzabelle 21d ago
    Just because something is vegetarian, doesn't make it a vegetable in standard english usage.
bgnn 22d ago
Rice is not a vegetable. It's not even the whole seed of a vegetable. It's just the starchy part. Try eating wholegrain rice.
- otherme123 22d ago
  Potatoes are vegetables? Rutabaga? Pumpking? Carrot? Turnip? They also punch high, and are consumed a lot by people that believes just "eating more veggies" would solve all their problems. And lets not talk about some fruits. Wholegrain won't do magic here. Glycemic index of wholegrain flours and wholegrain products (bread, cookies...), even sugar free, can be higher than foods made with regular grain. E.g. glycemic index of butter cookies is 60-70 (https://glycemic-index.net/cookies-pastries/ https://glycemic-index.net/cookies-pastries/ https://glycemic-index-database.com/foods/butter-cookies-flour-butter-sugar/ https://glycemic-index-database.com/foods/butter-cookies-flo...), for a wholegrain baguette is 75 (https://glycemic-index.net/baguette-whole-grain/ https://glycemic-index.net/baguette-whole-grain/).
fkdupman 21d ago
Rice will do that, especially if it's white. Try 80g of cauliflower rice with fish and see if it still happens.

kakacik 22d ago

Rice is not a veggie ffs, its not very healthy even in its best forms. Just a lot of simpler sugars. You are not doing anything healthy by eating it, and that glucose spike is very much expected just like from other junk food.

otherme123 22d ago
Rice is consumed a lot, and it has more things than "a lot of simple sugars". In fact, any "veggie" book would include many of recipes with rice, rice flour or rice noodles, as they are usually based in Asian cuisine. Also, as the current hell is gluten, some recipes suggest replacing wheat with rice. It is common knowledge in the vegan world to pair lentils with rice, as they complement (rice is low lysine, high in methionine, lentils the other way). Lentils includes fiber that lowers the glycemic index of the overall meal, but also rice eases the otherwise heavy digestion of lentils. They both pair in other micronutrients (iron, zinc, selenium, magnesium, potassium).
- annzabelle 21d ago
  Just because something is vegetarian, doesn't make it a vegetable in standard english usage.

bgnn 22d ago

Rice is not a vegetable. It's not even the whole seed of a vegetable. It's just the starchy part. Try eating wholegrain rice.

otherme123 22d ago
Potatoes are vegetables? Rutabaga? Pumpking? Carrot? Turnip? They also punch high, and are consumed a lot by people that believes just "eating more veggies" would solve all their problems. And lets not talk about some fruits. Wholegrain won't do magic here. Glycemic index of wholegrain flours and wholegrain products (bread, cookies...), even sugar free, can be higher than foods made with regular grain. E.g. glycemic index of butter cookies is 60-70 (https://glycemic-index.net/cookies-pastries/ https://glycemic-index.net/cookies-pastries/ https://glycemic-index-database.com/foods/butter-cookies-flour-butter-sugar/ https://glycemic-index-database.com/foods/butter-cookies-flo...), for a wholegrain baguette is 75 (https://glycemic-index.net/baguette-whole-grain/ https://glycemic-index.net/baguette-whole-grain/).

fkdupman 21d ago

Rice will do that, especially if it's white. Try 80g of cauliflower rice with fish and see if it still happens.