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This sounds much like the civil engineering crisis in my region of the world after the 2008 financial crisis. There was barely any new construction going on fo

by Tade0 22d ago

This sounds much like the civil engineering crisis in my region of the world after the 2008 financial crisis. There was barely any new construction going on for a couple of years and once it started anew, there was a gap as while people were retiring, new hires weren't replacing them. I guess we're just going to shrink as a field until the market won't be able to handle it.

glimshe 22d ago
Our field started as a niche for geeks. For a long time, CS paid you the average for engineering work - hardly equivalent to six figures today for most with the exception of seniors. It's still like that on most of the world. Many people here lived through ridiculous times. It was possible to make 1M in a year without incredible skills/hard work. Big tech was and still is full of these people. I'm not saying that was a bad thing at all, but it always felt unsustainable. CS salaries will decline and fewer people will want to be software developers, balancing the market. Then it may go back to where it came from with the geeks sticking around. No more coding bros. Maybe that's okay. When I got my degree, I never expected more than a slightly above average salary. I do this because I love it and can't imagine doing anything else. I was lucky and I'm thankful for the luck I had.
- dimaaan 22d ago
  That resonates me. When I was in high school, I lied to girls about what I was planning to major in just so I wouldn't sound like some antisocial nerd. Nobody back then thought coding was cool. It was just the thing the weird kids did in the computer lab.
  - DeluluDon 22d ago
    Yes, this is why 60% now prefer being single.
- eli_gottlieb 22d ago
  Seconded. The year I graduated from college, the median CS graduate was employed making about $65k/year USD. I got offers for $80k/year and thought that was pretty hot shit.
smcg 22d ago
Civil engineering will keep shrinking unless pay goes up. I know a very good civil engineer with 10+ years of experience who switched to software development and doubled his salary.
- Tade0 22d ago
  Yeah - three out of four people I know from that field went into IT, to similar effects.

by Tade0 22d ago

glimshe 22d ago

Our field started as a niche for geeks. For a long time, CS paid you the average for engineering work - hardly equivalent to six figures today for most with the exception of seniors. It's still like that on most of the world. Many people here lived through ridiculous times. It was possible to make 1M in a year without incredible skills/hard work. Big tech was and still is full of these people. I'm not saying that was a bad thing at all, but it always felt unsustainable. CS salaries will decline and fewer people will want to be software developers, balancing the market. Then it may go back to where it came from with the geeks sticking around. No more coding bros. Maybe that's okay. When I got my degree, I never expected more than a slightly above average salary. I do this because I love it and can't imagine doing anything else. I was lucky and I'm thankful for the luck I had.

dimaaan 22d ago
That resonates me. When I was in high school, I lied to girls about what I was planning to major in just so I wouldn't sound like some antisocial nerd. Nobody back then thought coding was cool. It was just the thing the weird kids did in the computer lab.
- DeluluDon 22d ago
  Yes, this is why 60% now prefer being single.
eli_gottlieb 22d ago
Seconded. The year I graduated from college, the median CS graduate was employed making about $65k/year USD. I got offers for $80k/year and thought that was pretty hot shit.

smcg 22d ago

Civil engineering will keep shrinking unless pay goes up. I know a very good civil engineer with 10+ years of experience who switched to software development and doubled his salary.

Tade0 22d ago
Yeah - three out of four people I know from that field went into IT, to similar effects.