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> What will happen once people are priced out of buying computers? I find this worrying. I’m sure some kind capitalist will be happy to rent them a thin client

> What will happen once people are priced out of buying computers? I find this worrying. I’m sure some kind capitalist will be happy to rent them a thin client linked to a computer in the cloud.

datakan 22d ago
Apple is already leasing phones/computers..........
- AISnakeOil 22d ago
  Yeah the era of the personal computer is over. Companies will prioritize components for cloud computing and lease us thin clients...
- WesleyJohnson 22d ago
  My take: this was done to pull consumers back into the cycle of upgrading to every new release. iPhones already do so much more than most people need. With the RAM price hikes, even though there was an influx of sales (according to a store rep) initially, I think Apple was expected a significant decline; people just choosing to stick with their current device to avoid paying the premium. Leasing not only allows Apple to keep "selling" people new devices, it will also mostly like accelerate the second-hand sales and resource recycling arms of the business. Consumers will be more willing to upgrade sooner and stay in perpetual payments vs having to buy out the device at lease end - and Apple gets back newer devices where the recycled tech is arguably more valuable.
brightball 22d ago
Capitalism will lead to: - Lots of options competing on quality, price, user experience, user needs - Every marketplace innovation that we talk about on this platform So somebody might offer exactly that and if it's a good option, people will use it. If it's not, they'll use an alternative. Government regulation will lead to: - Giant entrenched companies that are difficult to disrupt thanks to insider connections - Lack of competition, price increases, terrible customer service and pretty much everything that "anti-capitalists" today complain about in regards to capitalism.
- a2ff6eeb0 22d ago
  *gestures at prices*
  - FeloniousHam 22d ago
    In Soviet Russia, prices so low no inventory left!
    - kwertyoowiyop 22d ago
      In Soviet Russia, supply demands YOU!
  - brightball 22d ago
    gestures at supply and demand
    - a2ff6eeb0 22d ago
      Yeah. It's not working to lower prices.
      - BirAdam 22d ago
        Right now, demand exceeds supply. As new fabs come online, supply will rise. Eventually, either through greater efficiency of the models and inference systems or through the collapse of AI companies, the demand will drop.
  - CaptWillard 22d ago
    Quantitative easing and fiscal stimulus entered the chat a while ago.
- easywood 22d ago
  So, government regulation will lead to all bad things we see today in capitalism? But capitalism won't. This is not very sound logic.
reaperducer 22d ago
I’m sure some kind capitalist will be happy to rent them a thin client linked to a computer in the cloud. Maybe we'll see a return to the late 1990's, when companies would give you a free computer as long as you allowed it to constantly display an ad banner on the top of the screen.
- kwertyoowiyop 22d ago
  I think this was only promised once or twice and any company relying on it quickly went bust.
  - reaperducer 22d ago
    There were at least seven companies offering this. I personally knew two people who had them from two different companies, and I think they were also available at Best Buy and Circuit City. But yes, they all went out of business during when the dot-com bubble burst.
type0 22d ago
What do you think chromebooks are?

> What will happen once people are priced out of buying computers? I find this worrying. I’m sure some kind capitalist will be happy to rent them a thin client linked to a computer in the cloud.

datakan 22d ago

Apple is already leasing phones/computers..........

AISnakeOil 22d ago
Yeah the era of the personal computer is over. Companies will prioritize components for cloud computing and lease us thin clients...
WesleyJohnson 22d ago
My take: this was done to pull consumers back into the cycle of upgrading to every new release. iPhones already do so much more than most people need. With the RAM price hikes, even though there was an influx of sales (according to a store rep) initially, I think Apple was expected a significant decline; people just choosing to stick with their current device to avoid paying the premium. Leasing not only allows Apple to keep "selling" people new devices, it will also mostly like accelerate the second-hand sales and resource recycling arms of the business. Consumers will be more willing to upgrade sooner and stay in perpetual payments vs having to buy out the device at lease end - and Apple gets back newer devices where the recycled tech is arguably more valuable.

brightball 22d ago

Capitalism will lead to: - Lots of options competing on quality, price, user experience, user needs - Every marketplace innovation that we talk about on this platform So somebody might offer exactly that and if it's a good option, people will use it. If it's not, they'll use an alternative. Government regulation will lead to: - Giant entrenched companies that are difficult to disrupt thanks to insider connections - Lack of competition, price increases, terrible customer service and pretty much everything that "anti-capitalists" today complain about in regards to capitalism.

a2ff6eeb0 22d ago
*gestures at prices*
- FeloniousHam 22d ago
  In Soviet Russia, prices so low no inventory left!
  - kwertyoowiyop 22d ago
    In Soviet Russia, supply demands YOU!
- brightball 22d ago
  gestures at supply and demand
  - a2ff6eeb0 22d ago
    Yeah. It's not working to lower prices.
    - BirAdam 22d ago
      Right now, demand exceeds supply. As new fabs come online, supply will rise. Eventually, either through greater efficiency of the models and inference systems or through the collapse of AI companies, the demand will drop.
- CaptWillard 22d ago
  Quantitative easing and fiscal stimulus entered the chat a while ago.
easywood 22d ago
So, government regulation will lead to all bad things we see today in capitalism? But capitalism won't. This is not very sound logic.

reaperducer 22d ago

I’m sure some kind capitalist will be happy to rent them a thin client linked to a computer in the cloud. Maybe we'll see a return to the late 1990's, when companies would give you a free computer as long as you allowed it to constantly display an ad banner on the top of the screen.

kwertyoowiyop 22d ago
I think this was only promised once or twice and any company relying on it quickly went bust.
- reaperducer 22d ago
  There were at least seven companies offering this. I personally knew two people who had them from two different companies, and I think they were also available at Best Buy and Circuit City. But yes, they all went out of business during when the dot-com bubble burst.

type0 22d ago

What do you think chromebooks are?