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> Arguable, they had to after the 2008 Buharest NATO summit How dare the countries threatened by Russia, who had seen how Russia invaded and brutalised multipl
by sofixa 23d ago
> Arguable, they had to after the 2008 Buharest NATO summit
How dare the countries threatened by Russia, who had seen how Russia invaded and brutalised multiple countries - Moldova, Checnya, Georgia twice - seek protection from Russia. This totally excuses Russia invading and brutalising again, of course.
> Ukraine's militarization going forward
The country was literally invaded (Crimea and Donbass), what the hell did you or the idiots in the Kremlin expect? That it will just sit and allow Russia to take more of its territory unopposed? That it will become a pliant vassal state again?
> eradication of Russian language and Russian-speaking population in the east
Such eradication that the country elected a Russian speaker to be president, on a platform of reconciliation with Russia. So much so, that his opposition called him a Russian puppet. That guy is Zelenskyy.
I'm sorry, but you're either out of your mind, or have been completely brainwashed. Russia chose to invade multiple of its neighbours, and did unspeakable atrocities every time. The only one to fault for all of this, and everyone around them seeking protection from this, is them. This imperialist nonsense brutality does not belong in the 21st century, and neither does its apologia. And no, I don't care about the whataboutism you're preparing to "defend" these actions with, it's beyond irrelevant. It's what the Russian state has been about since it came into being out of the ruins of the USSR. We should have never treated them as anything else.
- d5lt5 23d ago> How dare the countries threatened by Russia, who had seen how Russia invaded and brutalised multiple countries - Moldova, Checnya, Georgia twice - seek protection from Russia. This totally excuses Russia invading and brutalising again, of course. That's literally a copy-paste from propaganda pamphlet. Can you back it up? > The country was literally invaded You seem to forget the amount of killings Ukraine did there and why it started in the first place. Why should I discuss that with a person who seems to be unaware of facts?
- sofixa 23d ago> That's literally a copy-paste from propaganda pamphlet. Can you back it up? Back what up? That Russia invaded and destroyed Chechnya? Or Georgia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1999%E2%80%932000) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_(1999%E2%80%9... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Georgian_War What exactly do you want backed up? That countries across Eastern Europe saw how the russians operate and decided they don't want to be destroyed? > You seem to forget the amount of killings Ukraine did there and why it started in the first place. What killings did Ukraine make that resulted in russia invading Crimea? Or russia starting the invasion of the Donbass? MH17 maybe? Oh no, wait, that was the russians too.