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> oxalpha.com is an independent site that gives you a free, no-login chat interface to the Ox Alpha model. Why create a marketing page for someone else? Like i

> oxalpha.com is an independent site that gives you a free, no-login chat interface to the Ox Alpha model. Why create a marketing page for someone else? Like it reads just like the typical >>we are the best<<, where you of course don't want to believe the hype. A blog doing a benchmark would be so much more valuable to readers. I am leaving this with more questions than answers.

gregjw 22d ago
i really doubt its for someone else, this will be from their team surely
- maxcb 22d ago
  You would think that, right? Here's the full text: > oxalpha.com is an independent site that gives you a free, no-login chat interface to the Ox Alpha model. We are not the model's creators — we're fans of it, like everyone else trying to guess who built it.
- simonw 22d ago
  The FAQ says: > We are not the model's creators — we're fans of it, like everyone else trying to guess who built it. Seeing as you can access the model for free in a number of different ways right now - including via OpenRouter https://openrouter.ai/stealth/ox-alpha https://openrouter.ai/stealth/ox-alpha - it's not far fetched for someone to create a free UI on top of that.
  - simonw 22d ago
    You can use their AdSense token to see other sites by the same operator. This one fits their pattern: https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/CA-PUB-1851068468056357 https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/CA-PUB-1851068468056... Sites like: chatgpt4.org picai.com chatai.org aidetector.ai
sunaurus 22d ago
Yeah, something about this whole website is just weird. The way it keeps repeating things like: > Nobody knows who made it — everyone wants to try it. > nobody knows for sure which lab made it. It just comes off untrustworthy, like I am getting scammed somehow. The whole thing being written like typical low signal to noise LLM slop does not help either.
_hao 22d ago
This is like when Eric Weinstein went on Rogan and told him and Jamie about https://pullthatupjamie.com https://pullthatupjamie.com as if he wasn't involved with that at all... Edit: typos
xffff 22d ago
It's like someone registered this domain before and then used AI to create a landing page to ride the wave of popularity.
yorwba 22d ago
SEO juice, malware distribution, harvesting payment information, selling the domain to the real model provider... Lots of ways to make a quick buck. For example, last year when Lightricks released the LTX video model, somebody else registered ltxv.video and got 215 upvotes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43944974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43944974 but the Lightricks CTO showed up to inform people that this wasn't their site. It now redirects to ltx.io, so either money changed hands or they filed a trademark dispute.

gregjw 22d ago

i really doubt its for someone else, this will be from their team surely

maxcb 22d ago
You would think that, right? Here's the full text: > oxalpha.com is an independent site that gives you a free, no-login chat interface to the Ox Alpha model. We are not the model's creators — we're fans of it, like everyone else trying to guess who built it.
simonw 22d ago
The FAQ says: > We are not the model's creators — we're fans of it, like everyone else trying to guess who built it. Seeing as you can access the model for free in a number of different ways right now - including via OpenRouter https://openrouter.ai/stealth/ox-alpha https://openrouter.ai/stealth/ox-alpha - it's not far fetched for someone to create a free UI on top of that.
- simonw 22d ago
  You can use their AdSense token to see other sites by the same operator. This one fits their pattern: https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/CA-PUB-1851068468056357 https://builtwith.com/relationships/tag/CA-PUB-1851068468056... Sites like: chatgpt4.org picai.com chatai.org aidetector.ai

sunaurus 22d ago

Yeah, something about this whole website is just weird. The way it keeps repeating things like: > Nobody knows who made it — everyone wants to try it. > nobody knows for sure which lab made it. It just comes off untrustworthy, like I am getting scammed somehow. The whole thing being written like typical low signal to noise LLM slop does not help either.

_hao 22d ago

This is like when Eric Weinstein went on Rogan and told him and Jamie about https://pullthatupjamie.com https://pullthatupjamie.com as if he wasn't involved with that at all... Edit: typos

xffff 22d ago

It's like someone registered this domain before and then used AI to create a landing page to ride the wave of popularity.

yorwba 22d ago

SEO juice, malware distribution, harvesting payment information, selling the domain to the real model provider... Lots of ways to make a quick buck. For example, last year when Lightricks released the LTX video model, somebody else registered ltxv.video and got 215 upvotes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43944974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43944974 but the Lightricks CTO showed up to inform people that this wasn't their site. It now redirects to ltx.io, so either money changed hands or they filed a trademark dispute.