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You still likely need a human bypass. "I was injured or disfigured so my face no longer anything for you to compare to. I do not now, and never shall again rese

You still likely need a human bypass. "I was injured or disfigured so my face no longer anything for you to compare to. I do not now, and never shall again resemble the image in the system." Similar things happen when you require fingerprints or retinal scans. "Well, I don't have a right hand anymore. It's in some hospital's incinerator." And not having an override or bypass is a software issue. Designing a system that doesn't permit exceptions or overrides is bad software design.

eszed 23d ago
> [N]ot having an override or bypass is a software issue. Designing a system that doesn't permit exceptions or overrides is bad software design. I think his point is that the designers of the software would have been aware of this, but they weren't the designers of the system, who wanted software to do All the Things.
traceroute66 23d ago
I don't follow. You cite three meaningful changes in biometrics: disfigured, loss of fingerprint and retinal issues. In all three cases surely the right and proper thing do to is to get your details updated on the system ? It may even be a legal requirement for you to do so in the case of official ID documents. Of course, if you have a temporary mismatch due to being injured on holiday that's different. But for a permanent thing I just don't see why you would not just get stuff re-issued or updated.
- bigbuppo 23d ago
  If a person off on holiday just had their face burned off by one of those tabletop fire pits and is on their way home due to just getting their face burned off, something tells me the last thing on their mind is swinging by the embassy to get their biometrics updated. The real world is messy.
  - traceroute66 23d ago
    > If a person off on holiday just had their face burned off I suggest you actually read my post, because its clear you did not. If you had read it, you would have seen the phrase "Of course, if you have a temporary mismatch due to being injured on holiday that's different.". I quite clearly excluded holiday injury.
    - roosterIllusi0n 22d ago
      Why would disfigurement be temporary? You are still injecting spin to dismiss legit concerns that are not optional for any production system. The system should always have a human override available with a manual check.

eszed 23d ago

> [N]ot having an override or bypass is a software issue. Designing a system that doesn't permit exceptions or overrides is bad software design. I think his point is that the designers of the software would have been aware of this, but they weren't the designers of the system, who wanted software to do All the Things.

traceroute66 23d ago

I don't follow. You cite three meaningful changes in biometrics: disfigured, loss of fingerprint and retinal issues. In all three cases surely the right and proper thing do to is to get your details updated on the system ? It may even be a legal requirement for you to do so in the case of official ID documents. Of course, if you have a temporary mismatch due to being injured on holiday that's different. But for a permanent thing I just don't see why you would not just get stuff re-issued or updated.

bigbuppo 23d ago
If a person off on holiday just had their face burned off by one of those tabletop fire pits and is on their way home due to just getting their face burned off, something tells me the last thing on their mind is swinging by the embassy to get their biometrics updated. The real world is messy.
- traceroute66 23d ago
  > If a person off on holiday just had their face burned off I suggest you actually read my post, because its clear you did not. If you had read it, you would have seen the phrase "Of course, if you have a temporary mismatch due to being injured on holiday that's different.". I quite clearly excluded holiday injury.
  - roosterIllusi0n 22d ago
    Why would disfigurement be temporary? You are still injecting spin to dismiss legit concerns that are not optional for any production system. The system should always have a human override available with a manual check.