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I'd like to add that correcting deficiencies implies seeing a physician to get your dosage right. This is necessary both for Vitamin D and Melatonin. If you're

I'd like to add that correcting deficiencies implies seeing a physician to get your dosage right. This is necessary both for Vitamin D and Melatonin. If you're not a sedentary geriatric with MCI this study is probably not for you.

zulux 24d ago
Sadly, many people in northern areas who are otherwise healthy are vitamin D deficient. It can be a side effect of trying to protect from skin cancer.
- phoronixrly 24d ago
  I am not arguing against that. I argue that correcting this deficiency is not in the competence of people who are not medical professionals no matter how many articles they've read on the front page of HN about vit. D.
  - zulux 24d ago
    You can very much overdose on Vit D. I suspect your risk tolerance is different than mine.
    - phoronixrly 24d ago
      You can very much overdose with melatonin as well, leading to your sleep schedule getting worse and worse the larger the dose. Ask me how I know before assuming my risk tolerance.
    - seba_dos1 24d ago
      You need to be quite irresponsible and blindly take large doses for extended periods of time to achieve this though - and there's a significant margin between what's considered a "too high" level and what's actually known to be toxic. Do keep your levels in check (you don't need to see a doctor to do that), but there's no need to be overly scared.
  - OutOfHere 24d ago
    You are speaking nonsense and lies, considering anyone can get themselves tested. Visiting a doctor is not needed for it. Doctors are in fact notoriously bad when it comes to vitamin D. None of the docs that I have ever visited eagerly tested my level. I always had to beg for a test. Moreover, none of them ever helped me optimize my level. It is tragically dangerous and harmful to rely on them for it.
    - phoronixrly 24d ago
      What conflict of interest would that be? I'm getting paid by big doctor to tell adtech devs with unchecked egos to go ask someone who has actually dedicated 10+ years of their life to study and practice medicine?
      - OutOfHere 24d ago
        Don't kid yourself. The formal requirement remains at 600 IU which is murderous for anyone who succumbs to obeying it. This formalism proves the malfeasance of the medical profession.
    - rfgplk 24d ago
      > Doctors are in fact notoriously bad when it comes to vitamin D. Most doctors know nothing about the endocrine system, at all. I self taught myself through "Endocrinology: Adult and Pediatric" and I probably know more than 99% of general practitioners out there. Heck, most doctors are likely unaware of the endocrinological functions of D3. On Endocrinology: Adult and Pediatric, I consider it a must read for anyone btw

zulux 24d ago

Sadly, many people in northern areas who are otherwise healthy are vitamin D deficient. It can be a side effect of trying to protect from skin cancer.

phoronixrly 24d ago
I am not arguing against that. I argue that correcting this deficiency is not in the competence of people who are not medical professionals no matter how many articles they've read on the front page of HN about vit. D.
- zulux 24d ago
  You can very much overdose on Vit D. I suspect your risk tolerance is different than mine.
  - phoronixrly 24d ago
    You can very much overdose with melatonin as well, leading to your sleep schedule getting worse and worse the larger the dose. Ask me how I know before assuming my risk tolerance.
  - seba_dos1 24d ago
    You need to be quite irresponsible and blindly take large doses for extended periods of time to achieve this though - and there's a significant margin between what's considered a "too high" level and what's actually known to be toxic. Do keep your levels in check (you don't need to see a doctor to do that), but there's no need to be overly scared.
- OutOfHere 24d ago
  You are speaking nonsense and lies, considering anyone can get themselves tested. Visiting a doctor is not needed for it. Doctors are in fact notoriously bad when it comes to vitamin D. None of the docs that I have ever visited eagerly tested my level. I always had to beg for a test. Moreover, none of them ever helped me optimize my level. It is tragically dangerous and harmful to rely on them for it.
  - phoronixrly 24d ago
    What conflict of interest would that be? I'm getting paid by big doctor to tell adtech devs with unchecked egos to go ask someone who has actually dedicated 10+ years of their life to study and practice medicine?
    - OutOfHere 24d ago
      Don't kid yourself. The formal requirement remains at 600 IU which is murderous for anyone who succumbs to obeying it. This formalism proves the malfeasance of the medical profession.
  - rfgplk 24d ago
    > Doctors are in fact notoriously bad when it comes to vitamin D. Most doctors know nothing about the endocrine system, at all. I self taught myself through "Endocrinology: Adult and Pediatric" and I probably know more than 99% of general practitioners out there. Heck, most doctors are likely unaware of the endocrinological functions of D3. On Endocrinology: Adult and Pediatric, I consider it a must read for anyone btw