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It's governed by the wicked version of Anglo-Saxxon law. In some cases it works much better than "criminal's have rights, victims doesn't" Continental law syst

by shuwix 26d ago

It's governed by the wicked version of Anglo-Saxxon law. In some cases it works much better than "criminal's have rights, victims doesn't" Continental law system in Europe. In other cases, it's insanity. In normal World, criminals have rights for any kind of defense. And that's good, because government have power to make anyone "criminal". Total breach of privacy by US government is a mirror to shitload of problems US has. Europe js heading same direction (both the problems & government solutions).

embedding-shape 26d ago
I think even by the second word you're outside bicycling, US isn't governed by anything at this point, except some rich people. > In some cases it works much better than "criminal's have rights, victims doesn't" Continental law system in Europe. What on earth are you talking about, "victims" definitively have rights in most European countries, but the fact you seemingly think there is one "Continental law system in Europe" clearly shows you have zero idea what you're talking about, Europe isn't one country with one law system across the continent... Sometimes, it's better just to say nothing :)
- paganel 25d ago
  > Europe isn't one country with one law system across the continent... The Napoleonic Code is indeed pervasive across the continent. And, ignoring that, we have EU law, which is supra-statal law that most certainly and de facto has come to replace/impose on "local" laws.
  - homarp 25d ago
    https://lawshun.com/article/what-is-the-relationship-between-eu-law-and-national-law https://lawshun.com/article/what-is-the-relationship-between... explains the complex relation between EU law and national law. in a nutshell, EU law takes precedence over conflicting national laws in areas where the EU has competence. While EU law is directly applicable or requires transposition into national law, member states retain autonomy in areas outside EU competence. National courts are obligated to interpret domestic law in line with EU law. National Constitutional Court/Supreme court, occasionally challenge EU law’s supremacy.
    - inigyou 25d ago
      They can also just ignore it because the EU has no army, only economic retaliation is possible. Hungary did this for years.
- gottorf 25d ago
  > US isn't governed by anything at this point, except some rich people > Sometimes, it's better just to say nothing :) Right.
  - embedding-shape 25d ago
    Who currently governs the US who isn't rich? Or do you disagree with that it's a bad idea that only rich people govern? I understand you want me to say nothing, that much is clear, but I don't understand what specific part you disagree with though.
    - TrnsltLife 24d ago
      How about that mayor of Seattle? Although she's doing a pretty bad job.
- shuwix 25d ago
  "Sometimes, it's better just to say nothing" You should make this as your life credo. Change "sometimes" into "always" till you learn something. It's called Continental law system, because main principles are same. And above that, there's EU legislation which is mandatory to all member states and is always to be adopted in national laws. And your bullshit about law working for the rich in US is really stupid. Extremly rich are almost untouchable everywhere in the World. Rich have a fighting chance of getting better outcome. And poor people have chance tk seek justice against roughly equal opponent. This is not about US, this is about how World works.
  - embedding-shape 25d ago
    > You should make this as your life credo. Change "sometimes" into "always" till you learn something. Somewhat of a paradox no? I'm guessing your belief here is that I learned something by what you just told me, so me not saying until now when I read your comment, is exactly what you wanted? > It's called Continental law system, because main principles are same. And above that, there's EU legislation which is mandatory to all member states and is always to be adopted in national laws. If you're under the belief that all countries in Europe have the same laws across borders because many countries have a civil law system, I'm not sure what to tell you, that's not how it works, and many countries have very different law systems, even if they come from the same origin. Neither would I say that countries "adopt EU legislation", but I guess that's a technicality. Usually you'd say that the countries implement their own laws based on the directives the European Commission comes up. But again, borderline nitpick, maybe better I don't mention this at all lest y'all get stuck on this particular point... > This is not about US, this is about how World works. Yeah, let me know when you understand how the entire world works friend ;) I won't claim to know that, although I do know home. But again, have fun, surely you'll get close! :)
    - shuwix 25d ago
      6yo kids with average IQ can master Google SE. Guess you'll never understand what is Continental law system. Or what is the meaning of word principle. Or what transposition is in terms of EU legislation. Keep whining kiddo, that's the best proof that as always, your desperate attempt to portray yourself as someone knowledgeable, failed. You can again give me one pathetic downvote ... that's your ultimate weapon. That will sure teach me a lesson for disrespecting big LLM gangsta with 96GB VRAM ... and all of sudden, crying for not being able to see tables in comments because all he has is mobile device. Keep living your online fiction, slumdog millionaire.
inigyou 25d ago
> criminal's have rights, victims doesn't Wait, you want to eliminate innocent until proven guilty?
Frieren 25d ago
> "criminal's have rights, victims doesn't" Straw man argument. Everybody has rights in the EU, including people suspected of being criminals, and of course victims. Arguing that in the EU victims have no rights is insulting for anyone reading your comment. That far-right view of the world is false and it is just trying to misinform and create hate.

by shuwix 26d ago

embedding-shape 26d ago

I think even by the second word you're outside bicycling, US isn't governed by anything at this point, except some rich people. > In some cases it works much better than "criminal's have rights, victims doesn't" Continental law system in Europe. What on earth are you talking about, "victims" definitively have rights in most European countries, but the fact you seemingly think there is one "Continental law system in Europe" clearly shows you have zero idea what you're talking about, Europe isn't one country with one law system across the continent... Sometimes, it's better just to say nothing :)

paganel 25d ago
> Europe isn't one country with one law system across the continent... The Napoleonic Code is indeed pervasive across the continent. And, ignoring that, we have EU law, which is supra-statal law that most certainly and de facto has come to replace/impose on "local" laws.
- homarp 25d ago
  https://lawshun.com/article/what-is-the-relationship-between-eu-law-and-national-law https://lawshun.com/article/what-is-the-relationship-between... explains the complex relation between EU law and national law. in a nutshell, EU law takes precedence over conflicting national laws in areas where the EU has competence. While EU law is directly applicable or requires transposition into national law, member states retain autonomy in areas outside EU competence. National courts are obligated to interpret domestic law in line with EU law. National Constitutional Court/Supreme court, occasionally challenge EU law’s supremacy.
  - inigyou 25d ago
    They can also just ignore it because the EU has no army, only economic retaliation is possible. Hungary did this for years.
gottorf 25d ago
> US isn't governed by anything at this point, except some rich people > Sometimes, it's better just to say nothing :) Right.
- embedding-shape 25d ago
  Who currently governs the US who isn't rich? Or do you disagree with that it's a bad idea that only rich people govern? I understand you want me to say nothing, that much is clear, but I don't understand what specific part you disagree with though.
  - TrnsltLife 24d ago
    How about that mayor of Seattle? Although she's doing a pretty bad job.
shuwix 25d ago
"Sometimes, it's better just to say nothing" You should make this as your life credo. Change "sometimes" into "always" till you learn something. It's called Continental law system, because main principles are same. And above that, there's EU legislation which is mandatory to all member states and is always to be adopted in national laws. And your bullshit about law working for the rich in US is really stupid. Extremly rich are almost untouchable everywhere in the World. Rich have a fighting chance of getting better outcome. And poor people have chance tk seek justice against roughly equal opponent. This is not about US, this is about how World works.
- embedding-shape 25d ago
  > You should make this as your life credo. Change "sometimes" into "always" till you learn something. Somewhat of a paradox no? I'm guessing your belief here is that I learned something by what you just told me, so me not saying until now when I read your comment, is exactly what you wanted? > It's called Continental law system, because main principles are same. And above that, there's EU legislation which is mandatory to all member states and is always to be adopted in national laws. If you're under the belief that all countries in Europe have the same laws across borders because many countries have a civil law system, I'm not sure what to tell you, that's not how it works, and many countries have very different law systems, even if they come from the same origin. Neither would I say that countries "adopt EU legislation", but I guess that's a technicality. Usually you'd say that the countries implement their own laws based on the directives the European Commission comes up. But again, borderline nitpick, maybe better I don't mention this at all lest y'all get stuck on this particular point... > This is not about US, this is about how World works. Yeah, let me know when you understand how the entire world works friend ;) I won't claim to know that, although I do know home. But again, have fun, surely you'll get close! :)
  - shuwix 25d ago
    6yo kids with average IQ can master Google SE. Guess you'll never understand what is Continental law system. Or what is the meaning of word principle. Or what transposition is in terms of EU legislation. Keep whining kiddo, that's the best proof that as always, your desperate attempt to portray yourself as someone knowledgeable, failed. You can again give me one pathetic downvote ... that's your ultimate weapon. That will sure teach me a lesson for disrespecting big LLM gangsta with 96GB VRAM ... and all of sudden, crying for not being able to see tables in comments because all he has is mobile device. Keep living your online fiction, slumdog millionaire.

inigyou 25d ago

> criminal's have rights, victims doesn't Wait, you want to eliminate innocent until proven guilty?

Frieren 25d ago

> "criminal's have rights, victims doesn't" Straw man argument. Everybody has rights in the EU, including people suspected of being criminals, and of course victims. Arguing that in the EU victims have no rights is insulting for anyone reading your comment. That far-right view of the world is false and it is just trying to misinform and create hate.