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HN: The Good Parts (2016)

82 points by adletbalzhanov 26d ago

Avicebron 26d ago
It's interesting how much the good parts have to do with not worrying about how much money your making or the job you have and instead focuses on technical topics. People are not happy Dan, and we can't bring it back to 2014 when a select few got to get massages before they pushed their commit for the day. If you want to be part of an interesting technical discussion you have to acknowledge where the people with knowledge are.
- Edymilson 26d ago
  Well said.
- dan-robertson 25d ago
  I don’t understand this comment. Firstly you’re looking at one person’s selection, not some authoritative list of the best comments, so it mostly reflects what that person is interested in. I don’t really understand the rest of your comment but for example I get to be in lots of interesting technical discussions at work, I’m happy, and reasonably well paid. I don’t think that’s a particularly unusual situation to be in compared to other HN readers who can live in similar places to me.
  - Avicebron 25d ago
    I don't understand this comment either, what are you adding here? Just saying your happy and well paid..good for you?
    - dan-robertson 22d ago
      What you write implies that you think that good programming jobs of the kind available in 2014 are no longer available. I basically think that’s wrong (indeed I think the opposite trend happened) for most HN readers who are able to live and work in US cities, or a few other western cities where such jobs tend to exist. I think it’s generally undesirable to believe false things but believing this particular false thing can be extremely bad if it causes one to not pursue good opportunities. Obviously everyone’s circumstances are different and while I try to add caveats there are inevitably exceptions, but I don’t think they warrant the use of the vaguely broad set of ‘people’ referred to above.
lapcat 26d ago
(2016)
- dang 26d ago
  Added. Thanks!
- dan-robertson 25d ago
  It’s had more recent updates
dang 26d ago
Related. Others? HN: The Good Parts (2016) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33364865 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33364865 - Oct 2022 (48 comments) HN: The Good Parts (2016) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27049601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27049601 - May 2021 (82 comments) HN: The Good Parts (2016) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20092118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20092118 - June 2019 (35 comments) HN comments are underrated - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12772925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12772925 - Oct 2016 (359 comments) (I can't remember why that last, i.e. the first, title was so different.)
- srean 26d ago
  Hey Dang when can we start (secretly) following our favourite users on HN
  - squirrellous 25d ago
    There is https://hnrss.github.io/ https://hnrss.github.io/ if you don’t mind a 3rd party service.
    - srean 25d ago
      Hey thanks. A few minutes later: this looks fantastic. Thank you.
  - qsera 25d ago
    Why though? You want a bubble here?
    - srean 24d ago
      Because some people make more interesting and thoughtful comments that I would like to reread. Some share interests.
  - dredmorbius 25d ago
    Bookmarks are A Thing. You can bookmark an account's profile, comments, and/or submissions page.
sillysaurusx 26d ago
> I compiled a very abbreviated list of comments I like because comments seem to get lost. Note that you can track comments you like by clicking its timestamp and then clicking "favorite". Then they're available at e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/favorites?id=sillysaurusx&comments=t https://news.ycombinator.com/favorites?id=sillysaurusx&comme...
janalsncm 26d ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3656581 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3656581 I really wonder what he would say today. In a way, being devoured by LLMs achieved SO’s ultimate goal of helping people solve programming problems quickly, but at the cost of SO.
- TacticalCoder 25d ago
  SO was already well DeadOverflow way before LLMs were a thing. For reasons people explained when SO came out: just as FaceBook was bound to be filled with accounts of dead persons (earning it the name "DeadBook"), SO was bound to be filled with outdated answers. That the people asking the question could pick what was, according to him, the proper answer was a huge mistake and it's been immediately pointed out as stupid and they didn't fix it: not only wrong answers were picked, but also answers bound to be soon outdated were picked as "correct" too. Don't get me wrong: I used SO a lot in the beginning, but the problems --that many foresaw-- quickly became obvious. And I'm not saying not allowing to pick one correct answer would have saved SO: but its downfall probably wouldn't have been so abrupt. Not all is rosy with LLMs but at least we don't have to suffer SO answers and SO comments anymore.
  - dan-robertson 25d ago
    I think SO had issues before LLMs but I would classify them more as community and moderation issues than dead answers (which can mostly be dealt with by pointing out on the site when an answer is old and allowing a higher-voted answer to rank more highly than the answer chosen by the question submitter)
dan-robertson 25d ago
See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/highlights https://news.ycombinator.com/highlights

It's interesting how much the good parts have to do with not worrying about how much money your making or the job you have and instead focuses on technical topics. People are not happy Dan, and we can't bring it back to 2014 when a select few got to get massages before they pushed their commit for the day. If you want to be part of an interesting technical discussion you have to acknowledge where the people with knowledge are.

Edymilson 26d ago
Well said.
dan-robertson 25d ago
I don’t understand this comment. Firstly you’re looking at one person’s selection, not some authoritative list of the best comments, so it mostly reflects what that person is interested in. I don’t really understand the rest of your comment but for example I get to be in lots of interesting technical discussions at work, I’m happy, and reasonably well paid. I don’t think that’s a particularly unusual situation to be in compared to other HN readers who can live in similar places to me.
- Avicebron 25d ago
  I don't understand this comment either, what are you adding here? Just saying your happy and well paid..good for you?
  - dan-robertson 22d ago
    What you write implies that you think that good programming jobs of the kind available in 2014 are no longer available. I basically think that’s wrong (indeed I think the opposite trend happened) for most HN readers who are able to live and work in US cities, or a few other western cities where such jobs tend to exist. I think it’s generally undesirable to believe false things but believing this particular false thing can be extremely bad if it causes one to not pursue good opportunities. Obviously everyone’s circumstances are different and while I try to add caveats there are inevitably exceptions, but I don’t think they warrant the use of the vaguely broad set of ‘people’ referred to above.

lapcat 26d ago

(2016)

dang 26d ago
Added. Thanks!
dan-robertson 25d ago
It’s had more recent updates

dang 26d ago

Related. Others? HN: The Good Parts (2016) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33364865 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33364865 - Oct 2022 (48 comments) HN: The Good Parts (2016) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27049601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27049601 - May 2021 (82 comments) HN: The Good Parts (2016) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20092118 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20092118 - June 2019 (35 comments) HN comments are underrated - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12772925 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12772925 - Oct 2016 (359 comments) (I can't remember why that last, i.e. the first, title was so different.)

srean 26d ago
Hey Dang when can we start (secretly) following our favourite users on HN
- squirrellous 25d ago
  There is https://hnrss.github.io/ https://hnrss.github.io/ if you don’t mind a 3rd party service.
  - srean 25d ago
    Hey thanks. A few minutes later: this looks fantastic. Thank you.
- qsera 25d ago
  Why though? You want a bubble here?
  - srean 24d ago
    Because some people make more interesting and thoughtful comments that I would like to reread. Some share interests.
- dredmorbius 25d ago
  Bookmarks are A Thing. You can bookmark an account's profile, comments, and/or submissions page.

sillysaurusx 26d ago

> I compiled a very abbreviated list of comments I like because comments seem to get lost. Note that you can track comments you like by clicking its timestamp and then clicking "favorite". Then they're available at e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/favorites?id=sillysaurusx&comments=t https://news.ycombinator.com/favorites?id=sillysaurusx&comme...

janalsncm 26d ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3656581 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3656581 I really wonder what he would say today. In a way, being devoured by LLMs achieved SO’s ultimate goal of helping people solve programming problems quickly, but at the cost of SO.

TacticalCoder 25d ago
SO was already well DeadOverflow way before LLMs were a thing. For reasons people explained when SO came out: just as FaceBook was bound to be filled with accounts of dead persons (earning it the name "DeadBook"), SO was bound to be filled with outdated answers. That the people asking the question could pick what was, according to him, the proper answer was a huge mistake and it's been immediately pointed out as stupid and they didn't fix it: not only wrong answers were picked, but also answers bound to be soon outdated were picked as "correct" too. Don't get me wrong: I used SO a lot in the beginning, but the problems --that many foresaw-- quickly became obvious. And I'm not saying not allowing to pick one correct answer would have saved SO: but its downfall probably wouldn't have been so abrupt. Not all is rosy with LLMs but at least we don't have to suffer SO answers and SO comments anymore.
- dan-robertson 25d ago
  I think SO had issues before LLMs but I would classify them more as community and moderation issues than dead answers (which can mostly be dealt with by pointing out on the site when an answer is old and allowing a higher-voted answer to rank more highly than the answer chosen by the question submitter)

dan-robertson 25d ago

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/highlights https://news.ycombinator.com/highlights