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I wonder if you went back before we had any idea how the brain worked and talked to the smartest people about how neurons work (without giving away that it's a
by ragequittah 26d ago
I wonder if you went back before we had any idea how the brain worked and talked to the smartest people about how neurons work (without giving away that it's a human brain) then asked them all "would such a system be intelligent?" how many would say yes.
The main problem I have with people stating it's not intelligent or conscious is I don't think we even have a good definition of either word that satisfies everyone. Philosophers have been trying (and failing) to elegantly define these things forever and everyone out here proclaiming they've got the definitive answer and this specific thing they're seeing doesn't fit under it.
- sophrosyne42 26d agoThe definition issue cuts both ways. It is just as much an issue for those insisting that LLMs are intelligent/conscious in some way.
- ragequittah 25d agoAgreed. All I can say is the conversations I have with AI and the things it's able to do for me are more useful than most any human I've come across. Whether that's 'intelligence' or not is a moot point to me. Consciousness is an interesting debate only because, similar to the natural world, if we declare something like "fish aren't conscious / don't feel pain" that then creates a real problem for the fish if we're wrong.