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> So many developer-hostile things lately. It is extraordinary how they managed to fuck up all of their goodwill with all these unnecessary stuff. They truly a

by eknkc 27d ago

> So many developer-hostile things lately. It is extraordinary how they managed to fuck up all of their goodwill with all these unnecessary stuff. They truly are a hostile company if I have ever seen one. And they had the entire developer community cheering for them a couple months ago. I hope they fail in their mission, whatever that is. Because I'm sure it's no benefit to anyone ever.

brookst 27d ago
While they’ve certainly fucked up goodwill with their actions, it’s also true that the tech enthusiast community has always been like teenagers who reject their favorite band when it gets popular. Oh, I used Claude before they got popular… their new stuff is trash compared to the early albums
- sanderjd 27d ago
  ha, a bit aggro, but I gave you an upvote because I think you aren't wrong.
cmrdporcupine 27d ago
What I find amazing is how many people are still clutching onto Claude Code like it's the only feasible tool and somehow genre-defining? I personally got sick as f with their unreliability and hostility and bugs back in about January and switched to Codex but this is still very clearly a minority position. I'm sure OpenAI will do the same nonsense eventually, but people need to act like they have options.
- sanderjd 27d ago
  It's just an immature ecosystem still, which means that everything has its drawbacks (IMO). I like Code way more than Codex. I like Pi a lot, and I expect it or something like it will eventually be the winner here for me, but I really miss the no-brainer "it just works" integration of Claude into Code, and the non-usage-based billing. Pi feels a lot more "raw" to me at the moment.
lelanthran 27d ago
> It is extraordinary how they managed to fuck up all of their goodwill with all these unnecessary stuff. The product is almost completely vibed with no humans in the loop (neither writing nor reading). IOW, there is little to no human judgement or care exercised in the production and maintenance of it, with predictable results.
- eknkc 27d ago
  I mean their track record when humans are in the loop is not better either. Decisions on hidden downgrades, subscription usage restrictions, account bans, neverending dance around model availability on subscription plans. Keeping CC closed source. Not releasing a single open model. BURNING BOOKS.. OpenAI feels like a bastion of competent management and development compared to this shit show and they have a psychopath on the helm. This is an achievement by itself.
unrented7977 27d ago
It's astonishing how often Anthropic choose to self-own. They're giving AMD a real run for their money in "never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity"

by eknkc 27d ago

brookst 27d ago

While they’ve certainly fucked up goodwill with their actions, it’s also true that the tech enthusiast community has always been like teenagers who reject their favorite band when it gets popular. Oh, I used Claude before they got popular… their new stuff is trash compared to the early albums

sanderjd 27d ago
ha, a bit aggro, but I gave you an upvote because I think you aren't wrong.

cmrdporcupine 27d ago

What I find amazing is how many people are still clutching onto Claude Code like it's the only feasible tool and somehow genre-defining? I personally got sick as f with their unreliability and hostility and bugs back in about January and switched to Codex but this is still very clearly a minority position. I'm sure OpenAI will do the same nonsense eventually, but people need to act like they have options.

sanderjd 27d ago
It's just an immature ecosystem still, which means that everything has its drawbacks (IMO). I like Code way more than Codex. I like Pi a lot, and I expect it or something like it will eventually be the winner here for me, but I really miss the no-brainer "it just works" integration of Claude into Code, and the non-usage-based billing. Pi feels a lot more "raw" to me at the moment.

lelanthran 27d ago

> It is extraordinary how they managed to fuck up all of their goodwill with all these unnecessary stuff. The product is almost completely vibed with no humans in the loop (neither writing nor reading). IOW, there is little to no human judgement or care exercised in the production and maintenance of it, with predictable results.

eknkc 27d ago
I mean their track record when humans are in the loop is not better either. Decisions on hidden downgrades, subscription usage restrictions, account bans, neverending dance around model availability on subscription plans. Keeping CC closed source. Not releasing a single open model. BURNING BOOKS.. OpenAI feels like a bastion of competent management and development compared to this shit show and they have a psychopath on the helm. This is an achievement by itself.

unrented7977 27d ago

It's astonishing how often Anthropic choose to self-own. They're giving AMD a real run for their money in "never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity"