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You are forced to purchase one of them, yes. > which unfair market conditions made it impossible Bank applications depending on various os or device level sec

• carlosjobim 29d ago
  > You are forced to purchase one of them, yes. Well then you aren't forced to purchase an iPhone, are you? Much less forced to develop for an iPhone. If a developer isn't satisfied with having access to billions of Android customers, then they should change careers or stop complaining. Developers also had every opportunity in the world to offer their software for Windows Phone and BlackBerry devices. Or offer their own devices with their software. Which is an easy thing for banks to do. Their laziness and incompetence isn't an excuse for them to turn around and point fingers at Apple for being successful. They made their own bed.
  • wasfgwp 27d ago
    > with having access to billions of Android customers The average Android user is almost worthless economically compared to the average iPhone user. If you calculate the market share based on revenue and not total users Apple has a much bigger proportion of the pie than the raw user base would suggest. > Which is an easy thing for banks to do. The victim in this case are the consumers, not banks. Overall the smartphone OS market is a not very competitive oligopoly, the government’s job is to make sure that markets are competitive. > around and point fingers at Apple for being successful. They made their own bed. To get into the position where you can abuse your position in the market you have to do something right, certainly. That doesn’t mean you should be allowed to do that in perpetuity.
    • carlosjobim 26d ago
      > The average Android user is almost worthless economically compared to the average iPhone user. But how and why is Apple to be blamed for that? > The victim in this case are the consumers, not banks. The culprits are the banks, who aren't offering their customers adequate service. The culprit certainly isn't Apple. They aren't a bank. > Overall the smartphone OS market is a not very competitive oligopoly Some of the biggest companies in the world are competing against each other on smart phones. And customers have a great variety of devices to choose from. Smart phones is a prime example on where the free market worked: Fierce competition between several very large companies resulted in amazing devices being offered to customers. And since customers are free to choose what they purchase, they will choose the best device they can get at whatever price they deem reasonable and affordable. Companies who cannot offer good enough products fall away from the competition by the nature of the free market: Nokia, Microsoft, BlackBerry, Siemens, and more. All of them were powerful corporations. Current hacker ideology has mixed the worst parts of capitalism and communism into weird standpoints which make no sense. Am I supposed to feel sorry that developers (they are mostly giant corporations) can't figure out how to make money without depending on Apple? And that therefore the government should intervene to guarantee the profits of these giant corporations? Enough, already. Apple has no unfair advantage against the competition, except for the incompetence of said competition. Let them have their win, and if they are acting against the interest of their consumers, then they won't have their win for long.
      • wasfgwp 25d ago
        > But how and why is Apple to be blamed for that? It’s not about blame, the point of anti trust and competition laws is just that, maximize competition and consumer surplus. Yes that inherently penalizes the most successful companies we collectively as a society judged that to be a fair bargain. > The culprit certainly isn't Apple. They aren't a bank. Sure, it’s easier to go after Apple not banks, though. > have a great variety of devices to choose from Physical hardware sure. Effectively there is no choice when it comes to software though. > device they can get at whatever price they deem reasonable and affordable Sure, but again physical hardware is not whats being discussed here. All major device manufacturers make it either were hard or impossible to install alternative operating systems (especially that got much worse for Android devices over the years). > can't figure out how to make money without depending on Apple? A When it comes to certain sectors that’s true. Or rather you are supposed to pay a very significant proportion of your revenue as rent to Apple to for very little in return (Apple benefits almost as much from third party developers as developers do from Apple). > Apple has no unfair advantage against the competition, except for the incompetence of said competition Yeah, that how most monopolies work. They are just outright better than their competition until they are in a dominant position and can get a higher proportion of the pie because they ran all the competitors out of business. That’s exactly when regulators should intervene to make the market more efficient. Based on empirical evidence free/efficient markets can almost never exist without regulation.