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Until one has a battery thermal runaway event. Or an entire truckload of batteries catches fire. StasheD is an engineer and firefighter, quite eye opening. h
by enquirewithin 29d ago
Until one has a battery thermal runaway event.
Or an entire truckload of batteries catches fire.
StasheD is an engineer and firefighter, quite eye opening.
https://youtu.be/diaUMNONpvw?si=7lxYS8iJHLvCTUkt https://youtu.be/diaUMNONpvw?si=7lxYS8iJHLvCTUkt
- SideburnsOfDoom 29d agoThe odds of an EV catching fire are lower than for a gasoline vehicle. And safer, less-flammable kinds of battery are in development. Less-flammable kinds of gasoline are not.
- enquirewithin 29d agoIs that an aged adjusted statistic? Or is it comparing with the entire gasoline vehicle fleet?
- SideburnsOfDoom 29d agoWhy ask things that you can easily look up?
- mikestew 29d agoSea lions don't merely "look things up", they ask you to do it for them.
- enquirewithin 29d agoOh, sorry, I thought we were having a conversation. My mistake.
- smcin 28d agoThis is all very off-topic to the original discussion about reduction in air pollution.
- SideburnsOfDoom 29d ago"A civil conversation about my statement" quite. I'm not buying it and you shouldn't be selling it.
- mrguyorama 29d agoConsider that every single human being on the planet carries around a lithium battery in their pocket, at a large percentage of those batteries have experienced such damage that would destroy the glass screen on those devices, and yet people are not bursting into flames regularly, and even the defective batteries that Samsung distributed for a while only made events extremely rare. Lithium batteries are pretty safe in practice.
- enquirewithin 29d agoSafe enough to not be allowed on air freight. Safe enough to not be allowed in checked baggage on commercial passenger aircraft. Safe enough to kill e-bike riders, safe enough to kill people at home charging their e-bike / e-scooter / electric car. Perfectly safe. No trade offs, just safety.
- DeRock 29d agoAll of those apply to gasoline
- SideburnsOfDoom 28d agoI want you to travel with half a gallon of gasoline (i.e. 2 litres of petrol) in your hold and/or hand luggage. See how that goes for you. And yet, people travel with one or often more than one battery devices as a matter of utterly unremarkable routine.
- nerdsniper 29d agoOne might similarly note the awe-inspiring destructive power demonstrated by tanker trucks of fuel catching fire and causing interstate bridges to collapse. https://archive.ph/VadwU https://archive.ph/VadwU : Tanker Truck Fire Collapses Bay Area Overpass https://archive.ph/4INYw https://archive.ph/4INYw : I-95 Overpass Collapses in Philadelphia After a Tanker Fire
- enquirewithin 29d agoGasoline or diesel fires can be extinguished. Lithium ion battery fires less so. Surly you don’t mean to imply that a sufficiently large lithium ion battery fire couldn’t burn down a bridge?
- Lio 29d agoYou're speculating about something that hasn't happened, using something that doesn't exist; no body is driving batteries large enough to destroy a bridge about. They are driving liquid fuel tankers that can do that around regularly. Also consider that as battery tech improves new chemistries lower the risk of fire even more. E.g. sodium batteries are very stable right now and solid state will improve that further. There's no way you can make petrol less flammable. You're going to have to face facts, battery powered vehicles are safer than petrol powered one.
- enquirewithin 29d ago[dead]