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I'm going through and flagging the guideline-breaking comments (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49348639 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49348639

I'm going through and flagging the guideline-breaking comments (e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49348639 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49348639) - I'd encourage you to do that, too, to help preserve the quality of HN.

sunaookami 29d ago
Thanks, every Musk-related thread on HN is like this, it's very tiresome. We get it, the man is controversial but I'm not on HN to read reddit-like kneejerk comments, I want to read insightful and technical ones.
- kennywinker 29d ago
  We don't get to use technology for technologies sake, and pretend it doesn't have social and political consequences or connections. Musk touched a lot of lives when he ransacked the federal government. A LOT of lives. Expecting people forget that because of some SaaS dev tools, or even a new EV, is a lot to ask. Might not be very technical, but I hope you find it insightful. If you absolutely need technical, consider reading this: https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(25)01186-9/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(25)01186-9/full...
  - sunaookami 28d ago
    I hope you don't actually believe that USAID helped lives, it's literally a propaganda arm of the government directly intervening in the politics of other countries and being a covert operation for murder and financing dictatorships. That Americans think that sacking it costs "millions of African's lives" is the pinnacle of comedy.
    - uxcolumbo 28d ago
      I think I'd rather trust medical experts (The Lancet) and their assessment vs your statement that implied USAID didn't save lives.
      - drak0n1c 28d ago
        Lancet is run by left-wing academic ideologues who do not practice medicine clinically, the publication advanced untested theories as policy during COVID and then recommended exceptions for BLM protesting.
        kennywinker 28d ago
        The lancet is a peer-reviewed journal, so it doesn’t really matter if the editors practice medicine or not - because the authors and reviewers do. > untested theories as policy during COVID and then recommended exceptions for BLM protesting. I feel like the thing you’re trying not to say is “mask wearing”. Untested theories like mask wearing.
      - brazukadev 21d ago
        That's a sure way to stay brainwashed.
  - qwerpy 28d ago
    Seeing the low-effort Reddit-tier snipes on every single post remotely related to him is tiring. I don't think it's a lot to ask of the supposedly intelligent, logical HN crowd to keep the outrage limited to posts that specifically discuss those topics.
    - kennywinker 28d ago
      [flagged]
      - qwerpy 28d ago
        Once a conversation has turned low effort I’m happy to “wrestle with the pigs” and get muddy.
        kennywinker 28d ago
        Have you never heard the expression don’t feed the trolls? If you actually have a problem with the tone and not just the content, ignore them and move on
  - throw10920 28d ago
    > We don't get to use technology for technologies sake, and pretend it doesn't have social and political consequences or connections. Nobody is """pretending""" that in this thread. The reality that is being asserted is that (1) politics doesn't have to be on-topic for every forum, (2) it's very explicitly not the focus of HN, and (3) even if it were on-topic the guidelines are very clear about ways to engage in a civil fashion and a very large number of comments on Musk-related posts are extremely clearly not doing this and breaking the guidelines. Hence, downvoting and flagging are the correct things to do.
    - kennywinker 27d ago
      [flagged]
      - dang 27d ago
        Can you please not cross into personal attack? You're right, of course, that technology and politics cannot be separated, and your point about (I'm paraphrasing here) horse-race politics being off topic is well taken. But the last bit was over the line, and not necessary to make your substantive point. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- gseesess 29d ago
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sunaookami 29d ago

Thanks, every Musk-related thread on HN is like this, it's very tiresome. We get it, the man is controversial but I'm not on HN to read reddit-like kneejerk comments, I want to read insightful and technical ones.

kennywinker 29d ago
We don't get to use technology for technologies sake, and pretend it doesn't have social and political consequences or connections. Musk touched a lot of lives when he ransacked the federal government. A LOT of lives. Expecting people forget that because of some SaaS dev tools, or even a new EV, is a lot to ask. Might not be very technical, but I hope you find it insightful. If you absolutely need technical, consider reading this: https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(25)01186-9/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(25)01186-9/full...
- sunaookami 28d ago
  I hope you don't actually believe that USAID helped lives, it's literally a propaganda arm of the government directly intervening in the politics of other countries and being a covert operation for murder and financing dictatorships. That Americans think that sacking it costs "millions of African's lives" is the pinnacle of comedy.
  - uxcolumbo 28d ago
    I think I'd rather trust medical experts (The Lancet) and their assessment vs your statement that implied USAID didn't save lives.
    - drak0n1c 28d ago
      Lancet is run by left-wing academic ideologues who do not practice medicine clinically, the publication advanced untested theories as policy during COVID and then recommended exceptions for BLM protesting.
      - kennywinker 28d ago
        The lancet is a peer-reviewed journal, so it doesn’t really matter if the editors practice medicine or not - because the authors and reviewers do. > untested theories as policy during COVID and then recommended exceptions for BLM protesting. I feel like the thing you’re trying not to say is “mask wearing”. Untested theories like mask wearing.
    - brazukadev 21d ago
      That's a sure way to stay brainwashed.
- qwerpy 28d ago
  Seeing the low-effort Reddit-tier snipes on every single post remotely related to him is tiring. I don't think it's a lot to ask of the supposedly intelligent, logical HN crowd to keep the outrage limited to posts that specifically discuss those topics.
  - kennywinker 28d ago
    [flagged]
    - qwerpy 28d ago
      Once a conversation has turned low effort I’m happy to “wrestle with the pigs” and get muddy.
      - kennywinker 28d ago
        Have you never heard the expression don’t feed the trolls? If you actually have a problem with the tone and not just the content, ignore them and move on
- throw10920 28d ago
  > We don't get to use technology for technologies sake, and pretend it doesn't have social and political consequences or connections. Nobody is """pretending""" that in this thread. The reality that is being asserted is that (1) politics doesn't have to be on-topic for every forum, (2) it's very explicitly not the focus of HN, and (3) even if it were on-topic the guidelines are very clear about ways to engage in a civil fashion and a very large number of comments on Musk-related posts are extremely clearly not doing this and breaking the guidelines. Hence, downvoting and flagging are the correct things to do.
  - kennywinker 27d ago
    [flagged]
    - dang 27d ago
      Can you please not cross into personal attack? You're right, of course, that technology and politics cannot be separated, and your point about (I'm paraphrasing here) horse-race politics being off topic is well taken. But the last bit was over the line, and not necessary to make your substantive point. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
gseesess 29d ago
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