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Your comment reminded me of a funny interaction I had a week or so ago. I got a call that started with the usual automated message, "This call is being recorde
by 6DM 1mo ago
Your comment reminded me of a funny interaction I had a week or so ago.
I got a call that started with the usual automated message, "This call is being recorded." After the person joined, I pushed the record button on my iPhone, "This call is being recorded."
They were surprised and asked why I'm recording.
I said, "You're recording, so I'm recording too."
The rep insisted that the company doesn't like this but that they will continue with the call anyway.
Anyway, I wish people took this stuff much more seriously. It always seems to boil down to, "I don't have anything to hide" type of conversations and I've never managed to convince anyone that privacy as a concept isn't about having something to hide.
- l3x4ur1n 1mo agoWhat is actually perfect, when the automated voice declares the call is being recorded, you don't have to do it again. You're legally allowed to record, because both parties were informed already and agree to it.
- thehappypm 1mo agoThis may not be true in all jurisdictions
- anonymars 1mo agoExactly, that's only one-party consent
- wat10000 1mo agoLaws are different in different jurisdictions, but often the law only requires notification, not consent.
- gaudystead 1mo agoThe operators of the phone system are consenting to the call being recorded by informing you that the call is being recorded. You are consenting to the call being recorded by continuing with the call. How is that not two party consent?
- wila 1mo agoIt's not a consent, because the options are "Yes" and "Yes", you cannot opt out unless you quit the call.
- anonymars 1mo agoI mixed it up and GP is right. But you are also right (which illustrates the point GGP was making) If you and I are in a phone call (the target of the phone call located in a one-party consent jurisdiction), I can record it or you can record it without telling the other: that's one-party consent, because one of the parties of the call consents to it At first glance that may sound pointless, but it means a third party outside the call (e.g. phone company) could not record it without one of us consenting By notifying that the call is being recorded, that now can create two-party consent because you are still on the line (and thus implicitly agree to the recording, but as you and GGP point out that's not always considered consent enough) -- one-party consent would have been if the company on the other side of the line simply recorded the call without telling you
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- Voultapher 1mo ago"I have nothing to hide" -> "Ok take off your cloth". Privacy is a useful social construct not some abstract mathematical concept. Everyone has stuff to hide and that's ok.
- dgellow 1mo agoUnfortunately in practice I've never seen that line convince someone that privacy is something worth defending
- Godsend69 1mo ago[dead]
- trollbridge 1mo agoNext time, announce you’re recording right after they do, when it’s still in the automated prompts.