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Really depends on the country. E.g., Israel has enjoyed a lot of support from the US, both officially and in public opinion, until just the last couple years.

by KingMob 1mo ago

pepperoni_pizza 1mo ago
Very much. For example here in Eastern Europe when people hear "Israeli" they tend to assume it means "Russian with Israeli passport, probably here to avoid sanctions or outbid locals on real estate". I'm sure it's very different in Turkey or say Thailand where they have Israel-born Israeli tourists, and surely different in US (though I have no idea what it is).
- starik36 1mo ago
  I am from Eastern Europe and people here "assumed" a lot of things about Jews way before Israel was even a thing. Let's not pretend Eastern Europeans would have loved Jews if it weren't for "Israel".
  - watutalkinbout 1mo ago
    Yes, but within Eastern Europe acceptance of Jews is generally higher than acceptance of Muslims, based on polling. Many non-Israeli Jews view Israel's actions as abhorent, particularly younger Jews. Being associated with Israel over the last few years must be a very uncomfortable place to be.
    - starik36 1mo ago
      > Many non-Israeli Jews view Israel's actions as abhorent, particularly younger Jews. And this comes of your own polling? As a non-Israeli Jew, I've seen quite the opposite. They closed ranks in the face of an external threat, especially the younger ones. Ignore Hollywood and Hannah Einbinders of the world - that is not the reality.
      - manyaoman 1mo ago
        "47% of [American] Jews now view the Israeli government favorably, down from 54% [in 2024]." https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/07/09/americans-views-of-israelis-have-grown-increasingly-negative-but-views-of-palestinians-have-held-fairly-steady/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/07/09/americans...
        starik36 1mo ago
        From the article: How did we do this? This analysis includes findings from a survey of 12,574 U.S. adults, 10,091 of whom are part of the Center’s American Trends Panel (ATP). The remaining 2,483 respondents include oversamples of Jews, Muslims and Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints members from SSRS’ Opinion Panel, Ipsos’ KnowledgePanel and NORC’s AmeriSpeak Panel. We conducted the survey May 4-17, 2026, and it has an overall margin of error of plus or minus 1.3 percentage points. They drew conclusions about Jews from subset of Jews from 2,483 respondents that included an unknown amount of Jews, Muslims, Mormons, and whoever is a member of Ipsos’ KnowledgePanel and NORC’s AmeriSpeak Panel. I am not sure this is especially representative. Even so, I don't know if I would characterize 54 to 47 as viewing as "abhorrent" as OP said.
        manyaoman 29d ago
        They also say "We weren’t able to survey enough Muslims to show how their views differ by age", so I guess the number of Jews isn't that much below 2,483. According to Gemini that already gives +-2% margin of error, which sounds good enough to me. > Even so, I don't know if I would characterize 54 to 47 as viewing as "abhorrent" as OP said. Agreed, also not quite "closed ranks" though. Exactly in between I guess.
        watutalkinbout 29d ago
        I was referring to Jews outside the US, although I appreciate most Jews outside Israel live in the US (you were referring to Eastern Europe). I'd agree that within the US opinions differ markedly, which I think is likely in part strongly related to differences in news media environment.

Really depends on the country. E.g., Israel has enjoyed a lot of support from the US, both officially and in public opinion, until just the last couple years.

by KingMob 1mo ago

Really depends on the country. E.g., Israel has enjoyed a lot of support from the US, both officially and in public opinion, until just the last couple years.

pepperoni_pizza 1mo ago

Very much. For example here in Eastern Europe when people hear "Israeli" they tend to assume it means "Russian with Israeli passport, probably here to avoid sanctions or outbid locals on real estate". I'm sure it's very different in Turkey or say Thailand where they have Israel-born Israeli tourists, and surely different in US (though I have no idea what it is).

starik36 1mo ago
I am from Eastern Europe and people here "assumed" a lot of things about Jews way before Israel was even a thing. Let's not pretend Eastern Europeans would have loved Jews if it weren't for "Israel".
- watutalkinbout 1mo ago
  Yes, but within Eastern Europe acceptance of Jews is generally higher than acceptance of Muslims, based on polling. Many non-Israeli Jews view Israel's actions as abhorent, particularly younger Jews. Being associated with Israel over the last few years must be a very uncomfortable place to be.
  - starik36 1mo ago
    > Many non-Israeli Jews view Israel's actions as abhorent, particularly younger Jews. And this comes of your own polling? As a non-Israeli Jew, I've seen quite the opposite. They closed ranks in the face of an external threat, especially the younger ones. Ignore Hollywood and Hannah Einbinders of the world - that is not the reality.
    - manyaoman 1mo ago
      "47% of [American] Jews now view the Israeli government favorably, down from 54% [in 2024]." https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/07/09/americans-views-of-israelis-have-grown-increasingly-negative-but-views-of-palestinians-have-held-fairly-steady/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/07/09/americans...
      - starik36 1mo ago
        From the article: How did we do this? This analysis includes findings from a survey of 12,574 U.S. adults, 10,091 of whom are part of the Center’s American Trends Panel (ATP). The remaining 2,483 respondents include oversamples of Jews, Muslims and Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints members from SSRS’ Opinion Panel, Ipsos’ KnowledgePanel and NORC’s AmeriSpeak Panel. We conducted the survey May 4-17, 2026, and it has an overall margin of error of plus or minus 1.3 percentage points. They drew conclusions about Jews from subset of Jews from 2,483 respondents that included an unknown amount of Jews, Muslims, Mormons, and whoever is a member of Ipsos’ KnowledgePanel and NORC’s AmeriSpeak Panel. I am not sure this is especially representative. Even so, I don't know if I would characterize 54 to 47 as viewing as "abhorrent" as OP said.
        manyaoman 29d ago
        They also say "We weren’t able to survey enough Muslims to show how their views differ by age", so I guess the number of Jews isn't that much below 2,483. According to Gemini that already gives +-2% margin of error, which sounds good enough to me. > Even so, I don't know if I would characterize 54 to 47 as viewing as "abhorrent" as OP said. Agreed, also not quite "closed ranks" though. Exactly in between I guess.
        watutalkinbout 29d ago
        I was referring to Jews outside the US, although I appreciate most Jews outside Israel live in the US (you were referring to Eastern Europe). I'd agree that within the US opinions differ markedly, which I think is likely in part strongly related to differences in news media environment.