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One trend to watch is AI cheat devices. Instead of running detectable software they have a fully separate device that uses AI for object detection and aimbottin

by im3w1l 1mo ago

One trend to watch is AI cheat devices. Instead of running detectable software they have a fully separate device that uses AI for object detection and aimbotting. If cheaters move to using those, then the argument for kernel mode anticheat weakens. And that is the cornerstone keeping gamers on windows.

matheusmoreira 1mo ago
Now I'm looking forward to these AI cheat devices. It's going to be hilarious if the kernel anticheat malware finally gets killed by AI aimbots of all things.
- inigyou 29d ago
  The term "AI" used in video games is not really related to the current LLM craze.
  - matheusmoreira 29d ago
    In what other ways could "AI cheat devices" and "uses AI for object detection and aimbotting" possibly be interpreted?
    - inigyou 29d ago
      As a misunderstanding. The curenet high-end cheat devices use the PCIe bus to read main memory without relying on any AI. Since they also plug in to the HDMI port to overlay their information on top of the game screen, this might be misunderstood as them detecting objects in the video output. But detecting objects in video also doesn't fall under the new definition of AI, which means LLMs and image diffusers.
- not_a9 29d ago
  The significantly increased capabilities of cheats if you can read/write memory and the dogshit that AI-oriented anticheat approaches continue producing (look at VACnet, though I am sure there are other companies producing better things like Anybrain - the thing is, 99% of the time the products of said companies are integrated along with a proper strong anticheat like EAC) will ensure kernel mode anticheats will be alive and well.
not_a9 1mo ago
While I’m not sure if this is a bot (where did vidya enter the convo?), game hacking on both cheat and anticheat side has genuinely deep Windows internals knowledge (admittedly somewhat lopsided, but deep nonetheless)
- im3w1l 1mo ago
  Producer and consumer sides are tied. If there is strong demand for windows development then there will be money sloshing around which will attract devs. I predict demand will decrease, at least for this particular niche. To go even further off topic, being called a bot is certainly a wake up call for me that the internet is dying, and I'm not ready for it, and need to reposition myself asap somehow.
  - pjc50 29d ago
    Windows demand is overwhelmingly corporate. Just like Nvidia is barely bothering with gamers at the moment, Windows is not being kept alive for games.

by im3w1l 1mo ago

matheusmoreira 1mo ago

Now I'm looking forward to these AI cheat devices. It's going to be hilarious if the kernel anticheat malware finally gets killed by AI aimbots of all things.

inigyou 29d ago
The term "AI" used in video games is not really related to the current LLM craze.
- matheusmoreira 29d ago
  In what other ways could "AI cheat devices" and "uses AI for object detection and aimbotting" possibly be interpreted?
  - inigyou 29d ago
    As a misunderstanding. The curenet high-end cheat devices use the PCIe bus to read main memory without relying on any AI. Since they also plug in to the HDMI port to overlay their information on top of the game screen, this might be misunderstood as them detecting objects in the video output. But detecting objects in video also doesn't fall under the new definition of AI, which means LLMs and image diffusers.
not_a9 29d ago
The significantly increased capabilities of cheats if you can read/write memory and the dogshit that AI-oriented anticheat approaches continue producing (look at VACnet, though I am sure there are other companies producing better things like Anybrain - the thing is, 99% of the time the products of said companies are integrated along with a proper strong anticheat like EAC) will ensure kernel mode anticheats will be alive and well.

not_a9 1mo ago

While I’m not sure if this is a bot (where did vidya enter the convo?), game hacking on both cheat and anticheat side has genuinely deep Windows internals knowledge (admittedly somewhat lopsided, but deep nonetheless)

im3w1l 1mo ago
Producer and consumer sides are tied. If there is strong demand for windows development then there will be money sloshing around which will attract devs. I predict demand will decrease, at least for this particular niche. To go even further off topic, being called a bot is certainly a wake up call for me that the internet is dying, and I'm not ready for it, and need to reposition myself asap somehow.
- pjc50 29d ago
  Windows demand is overwhelmingly corporate. Just like Nvidia is barely bothering with gamers at the moment, Windows is not being kept alive for games.