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I got an "it is unacceptable" from their CPO on 8/7, and that they are "working around the clock on it". https://x.com/mariorod1/status/2085800861469495465 htt

by qrush 1mo ago

I got an "it is unacceptable" from their CPO on 8/7, and that they are "working around the clock on it". https://x.com/mariorod1/status/2085800861469495465 https://x.com/mariorod1/status/2085800861469495465 I really think something deeper is going wrong there, and they're not being honest with their paying customers (and enterprises) about it.

Pseudocrat 1mo ago
I mean they may be working around the clock, but after 5 or 6 layoffs in 3 years… half their engineers are probably still learning the code base.
- a2ff6eeb0 1mo ago
  Yeah, and the rest are probably not quite so invested.
- dgellow 1mo ago
  I don’t think their engineers « learn the codebase » anymore, that’s so 2025. It’s all agentic now, the model learns the codebase, the engineer ask the agents to do their best and believe in themselves
  - fg137 29d ago
    Which is why my colleague pushed fix after fix but still failed at addressing the root cause of a bug. Turns out outsourcing all your thinking to a machine that doesn't truly understand your system yet hallucinates isn't going to work.
  - owebmaster 29d ago
    Missing the /s? This behavior is what led them to the current situation and will only get worse.
    - dgellow 28d ago
      I want to say it’s sarcastic, but it’s actually what people are doing IRL!
tibbar 1mo ago
The reality is that it's probably a skill issue. Scaling a mature platform 10x can be a really, really hard problem, they obviously don't have their arms around a solution, and are probably spending a majority of their time on ops to keep the bleeding down. In the old days you would have Jeff Dean come down from heaven and invent a new database for you or something like that. It doesn't really seem like Github has that kind of technical ability, so they're probably trying to cobble together Azure ops with internal bandaids while everyone internally is cranking out AI code and it's just not going to be enough.
- conartist6 1mo ago
  May I just leave this for you here? https://isolveproblems.substack.com/p/how-microsoft-vaporized-a-trillion https://isolveproblems.substack.com/p/how-microsoft-vaporize... A technical foundation is not infinitely strong. Put a big enough castle on a swamp, and it will sink into the swamp.
  - tibbar 29d ago
    This is nightmarish.
dgellow 1mo ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if that tweet response you got was written by an LLM

by qrush 1mo ago

Pseudocrat 1mo ago

I mean they may be working around the clock, but after 5 or 6 layoffs in 3 years… half their engineers are probably still learning the code base.

a2ff6eeb0 1mo ago
Yeah, and the rest are probably not quite so invested.
dgellow 1mo ago
I don’t think their engineers « learn the codebase » anymore, that’s so 2025. It’s all agentic now, the model learns the codebase, the engineer ask the agents to do their best and believe in themselves
- fg137 29d ago
  Which is why my colleague pushed fix after fix but still failed at addressing the root cause of a bug. Turns out outsourcing all your thinking to a machine that doesn't truly understand your system yet hallucinates isn't going to work.
- owebmaster 29d ago
  Missing the /s? This behavior is what led them to the current situation and will only get worse.
  - dgellow 28d ago
    I want to say it’s sarcastic, but it’s actually what people are doing IRL!

tibbar 1mo ago

The reality is that it's probably a skill issue. Scaling a mature platform 10x can be a really, really hard problem, they obviously don't have their arms around a solution, and are probably spending a majority of their time on ops to keep the bleeding down. In the old days you would have Jeff Dean come down from heaven and invent a new database for you or something like that. It doesn't really seem like Github has that kind of technical ability, so they're probably trying to cobble together Azure ops with internal bandaids while everyone internally is cranking out AI code and it's just not going to be enough.

conartist6 1mo ago
May I just leave this for you here? https://isolveproblems.substack.com/p/how-microsoft-vaporized-a-trillion https://isolveproblems.substack.com/p/how-microsoft-vaporize... A technical foundation is not infinitely strong. Put a big enough castle on a swamp, and it will sink into the swamp.
- tibbar 29d ago
  This is nightmarish.

dgellow 1mo ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if that tweet response you got was written by an LLM