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I actually favor Qwen3.8 and run it locally + use the Token-Plan on AlibabaCloud, when I need faster results. Kind of favor it over GPT5.6 Sol. Also it seems t

I actually favor Qwen3.8 and run it locally + use the Token-Plan on AlibabaCloud, when I need faster results. Kind of favor it over GPT5.6 Sol. Also it seems to be more capable, need to test more, but I think it's at least getting on par and it's fully open-source and open-weights. Here's some benchmarks: https://benchlm.ai/compare/gpt-5-6-sol-vs-qwen3-8-max https://benchlm.ai/compare/gpt-5-6-sol-vs-qwen3-8-max https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.8#full-benchmark-table https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.8#full-benchmark-table (incredible UI/UX demos) https://venturebeat.com/technology/qwen3-8-max-arrives-with-a-bold-claim-it-outperforms-gpt-5-6-sol-max-and-fable-5-on-agentic-computer-use https://venturebeat.com/technology/qwen3-8-max-arrives-with-... EDIT: Am I early to the discussion, or is none else using Qwen3.8-max?

ALLTaken 1mo ago
huh, why am I being shadow banned? Does YC have similar problems like those at wikipedia/reddit? (wikipedia-editor-wars, or reddit-mod-wars)
- HDBaseT 1mo ago
  You aren't being "shadow banned". I concur with your conclusion, Qwen 3.8 has exceptional Vision Capabilities. The other commenter mentioned "I thought Qwen 3.8 didn't have Vision", it does, just not on the open weights version, only via official API.
barrenko 1mo ago
I thought Qwen 3.8 max doesn't have vision?
- ALLTaken 27d ago
  It actually has vision + tool_use even the 27B param model. The community tries to produce even a MoE version of Qwen3.8 now, because that'd allow to run the full model with some experts being pruned like with Ornith 1.5 35B A3B. You can get this to run on 24GB Ram: https://huggingface.co/baa-ai/Qwen3.8-27B-RAM-24GB-MLX https://huggingface.co/baa-ai/Qwen3.8-27B-RAM-24GB-MLX I found the FULL Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B-MLX-reap50-3bit, but it's 540GB. So, I can't run it on my tiny laptop, but hope that the community finds ways to bring the size down and memory requirements too =)))
  - ALLTaken 27d ago
    OMG I found it!! Research preview: Whittle MoE 27B (A18B): a mixture of experts rescued by its routers https://huggingface.co/logic65/Qwen3.8-Whittle-MoE-27B-A17.8B https://huggingface.co/logic65/Qwen3.8-Whittle-MoE-27B-A17.8...

ALLTaken 1mo ago

huh, why am I being shadow banned? Does YC have similar problems like those at wikipedia/reddit? (wikipedia-editor-wars, or reddit-mod-wars)

HDBaseT 1mo ago
You aren't being "shadow banned". I concur with your conclusion, Qwen 3.8 has exceptional Vision Capabilities. The other commenter mentioned "I thought Qwen 3.8 didn't have Vision", it does, just not on the open weights version, only via official API.

barrenko 1mo ago

I thought Qwen 3.8 max doesn't have vision?

ALLTaken 27d ago
It actually has vision + tool_use even the 27B param model. The community tries to produce even a MoE version of Qwen3.8 now, because that'd allow to run the full model with some experts being pruned like with Ornith 1.5 35B A3B. You can get this to run on 24GB Ram: https://huggingface.co/baa-ai/Qwen3.8-27B-RAM-24GB-MLX https://huggingface.co/baa-ai/Qwen3.8-27B-RAM-24GB-MLX I found the FULL Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B-MLX-reap50-3bit, but it's 540GB. So, I can't run it on my tiny laptop, but hope that the community finds ways to bring the size down and memory requirements too =)))
- ALLTaken 27d ago
  OMG I found it!! Research preview: Whittle MoE 27B (A18B): a mixture of experts rescued by its routers https://huggingface.co/logic65/Qwen3.8-Whittle-MoE-27B-A17.8B https://huggingface.co/logic65/Qwen3.8-Whittle-MoE-27B-A17.8...