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10% is a lot! And why would this slow down the cheating epidemic? There’s tons of ways like declaude etc to get around the check. Also Claude’s style is very di

10% is a lot! And why would this slow down the cheating epidemic? There’s tons of ways like declaude etc to get around the check. Also Claude’s style is very distinctive (e.g. “load bearing”) AND has changed since 4.5 quite dramatically. I might not be able to tell on a specific response, but I can tell you that I went from canceling my ChatGPT plan in November, to now reaching for it first and considering cancelling Claude because its style is getting really groan-inducing. It’s weird because I thought ChatGPT was really annoying about a year ago, and now codex is my first choice. Is the cheating epidemic so bad? I’m a little out of the loop there truthfully, what are the consequences of not being able to detect AI generated text in non academic settings? And in academic settings… maybe I am underestimating the challenge, but it does feel like the assignment and ways education happens needs to change? As an aside, I’m not totally sure why this solution feels so icky to me. There’s something Orwellian about how the phrasing of a passage embeds hidden information that only Anthropic can see i guess

josephg 1mo ago
> There’s tons of ways like declaude etc to get around the check How effective is this on the new fingerprinting mechanisms? > Is the cheating epidemic so bad? From what I’ve heard, yeah it’s out of control. And all the existing llm detectors that academics use have a high false positive rate, which catches a bunch of innocent students in the cross fire. > it does feel like the assignment and ways education happens needs to change? Why? Was there something fundamentally wrong with how universities teach and assess? The sector is responding. For example by moving back to more in person exams and reducing the load of any take home exams. Is that good, for some reason? > There’s something Orwellian about how the phrasing of a passage embeds hidden information Interesting. I don’t have the same response. LLMs give me an acute sense of existential dread each time their capabilities improve. But fingerprinting doesn’t move me at all. Do some soul searching on why this bothers you. I’d love to hear why, and I bet you aren’t alone.

josephg 1mo ago

> There’s tons of ways like declaude etc to get around the check How effective is this on the new fingerprinting mechanisms? > Is the cheating epidemic so bad? From what I’ve heard, yeah it’s out of control. And all the existing llm detectors that academics use have a high false positive rate, which catches a bunch of innocent students in the cross fire. > it does feel like the assignment and ways education happens needs to change? Why? Was there something fundamentally wrong with how universities teach and assess? The sector is responding. For example by moving back to more in person exams and reducing the load of any take home exams. Is that good, for some reason? > There’s something Orwellian about how the phrasing of a passage embeds hidden information Interesting. I don’t have the same response. LLMs give me an acute sense of existential dread each time their capabilities improve. But fingerprinting doesn’t move me at all. Do some soul searching on why this bothers you. I’d love to hear why, and I bet you aren’t alone.