> Career UX/UI folks will defend them, and this just feels like they smoked too much of their own shenanigans. Of course, people are a part of the problem, nev

> Career UX/UI folks will defend them, and this just feels like they smoked too much of their own shenanigans. Of course, people are a part of the problem, never said they weren't. But when you ask how did Bobby from marketing commit murder, it's pertinent if he used a crowbar or a glock. Sure, neither are "evil" on their own, and I'm not saying that bootstrap is bad. It's just the footgun that made it that much more likely... If you want a "why" for the human side of the equation, well I'm not a marketing guy, the TV show Mad Men seems to offer an interesting perspective as to what makes a marketing department "good", vs just another latte drinking "vibe" shop. My hypothesis being, I have a strong suspicion certain parts of that culture no longer exist, and have mostly been replaced with number-seeking.