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Sounds like you've let your feed fill with shitty channels, but no, not all channels do this. I mostly refuse to watch videos with those cringe clickbait thumbn

Sounds like you've let your feed fill with shitty channels, but no, not all channels do this. I mostly refuse to watch videos with those cringe clickbait thumbnails, and I've still got more stuff to watch that I've got time for. And it's mostly gaming and variety streamers, or music/animation artists; not serious stuff. Now, I'll grant you that these may not become as successful as the clickbaity ones. Then again, the latter channels might as well not exist to me and like-minded people. Just an hour ago I unfollowed a streamer precisely because he's been getting clickbaity. We've got to take some responsibility over the people we choose to watch.

LollipopYakuza 1mo ago
But everyone ≠ you and a channel will be way more successful by using those shitty mechanism. tl;dr Don't Hate The Player, Hate The Game
- debugnik 1mo ago
  I don't even know what you're trying to convey: I'm countering the perception that every channel does this. But it isn't true, they've simply allowed themselves to have a disgusting feed. The "players" can do whatever, I don't care, because I don't watch them; they barely even show up on my algorithmic feed anymore. No one has to watch them, they simply chose to and then pretend they didn't have a choice. I just want people to own it, these channels do clickbait because many people like it.
  - LollipopYakuza 1mo ago
    My point is simply that you might have habits that made you filter out those channels, but the stats show that using clickbait thumbnails and titles has an impact that tremendously change the views. Youtube creators are spending sometimes 1/3 of the time of production of a video on the thumbnail, with a dozen of variations in A/B testing. They have to optimize because the basic user decides in the first 5 seconds if they will continue watching. And Youtube punishes content creator if they notice that those users don't stay more than those few seconds. I believe the vast majority of the creators (the "players") hate having to resort to those, but they just don't have a choice if they want it to be sustainable.

LollipopYakuza 1mo ago

But everyone ≠ you and a channel will be way more successful by using those shitty mechanism. tl;dr Don't Hate The Player, Hate The Game

debugnik 1mo ago
I don't even know what you're trying to convey: I'm countering the perception that every channel does this. But it isn't true, they've simply allowed themselves to have a disgusting feed. The "players" can do whatever, I don't care, because I don't watch them; they barely even show up on my algorithmic feed anymore. No one has to watch them, they simply chose to and then pretend they didn't have a choice. I just want people to own it, these channels do clickbait because many people like it.
- LollipopYakuza 1mo ago
  My point is simply that you might have habits that made you filter out those channels, but the stats show that using clickbait thumbnails and titles has an impact that tremendously change the views. Youtube creators are spending sometimes 1/3 of the time of production of a video on the thumbnail, with a dozen of variations in A/B testing. They have to optimize because the basic user decides in the first 5 seconds if they will continue watching. And Youtube punishes content creator if they notice that those users don't stay more than those few seconds. I believe the vast majority of the creators (the "players") hate having to resort to those, but they just don't have a choice if they want it to be sustainable.