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It's quite likely that Brave itself collects data on your usage and shares at least some of it with Palantir. This isn't such an outrageous assumption to make

by rwz 1mo ago

It's quite likely that Brave itself collects data on your usage and shares at least some of it with Palantir. This isn't such an outrageous assumption to make here.

shooly 1mo ago
Firefox also collects and sells data to no one really knows who. https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e#diff-efc9fde0375fb98aa4918364737cb420fe33c44a52465ed89deb02db8cfe6c0a https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b... https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/
- rwz 1mo ago
  I mean sure, but there's a bit of a difference between "sells data to no one really knows who" and "sells data to no one really knows who AND PALANTIR" which the original commenter seem to be flagging as a problem.
  - inigyou 1mo ago
    "no one really knows who" is probably also Palantir or someone who resells to Palantir.
    - AstralSerenity 1mo ago
      From what I know personally, Firefox truly is responsible with user data. Though -- to steel man your point -- all the data Firefox sells is through their subsidiary Anonym, which goes through great lengths to anonymize all user data that can't be tied to any individual. Example: selling market preferences of a town rather than the individual people in it.
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  - shooly 1mo ago
    Well Thiel investing in Brave once at the beginning doesn't necessarily mean that Palantir is getting any data now (even though it's presented as if it was a fact in other comments here). It's probable, but really it's just speculation, just like anyone can speculate about who's getting data from Firefox. But at least with Brave, the initial funding information was made public, so there's already more information available to users in comparison with Mozilla. Mozilla just said: "there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners" - that could mean literally anyone.
tredre3 1mo ago
Telemetry can be disabled in Brave. Any kind of history/bookmark syncing is opt-in. You're just spreading FUD unless you have evidence that Brave funnels usage data in secret.
EbNar 1mo ago
There's no need to make assumptions. The source code is out there. Please, show us the relevant commits which do what you said.

by rwz 1mo ago

It's quite likely that Brave itself collects data on your usage and shares at least some of it with Palantir. This isn't such an outrageous assumption to make here.

shooly 1mo ago

Firefox also collects and sells data to no one really knows who. https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b61939b7f4310eb80c5470e#diff-efc9fde0375fb98aa4918364737cb420fe33c44a52465ed89deb02db8cfe6c0a https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock/commit/d459addab846d8144b... https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/update-on-terms-of-use/

rwz 1mo ago
I mean sure, but there's a bit of a difference between "sells data to no one really knows who" and "sells data to no one really knows who AND PALANTIR" which the original commenter seem to be flagging as a problem.
- inigyou 1mo ago
  "no one really knows who" is probably also Palantir or someone who resells to Palantir.
  - AstralSerenity 1mo ago
    From what I know personally, Firefox truly is responsible with user data. Though -- to steel man your point -- all the data Firefox sells is through their subsidiary Anonym, which goes through great lengths to anonymize all user data that can't be tied to any individual. Example: selling market preferences of a town rather than the individual people in it.
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- shooly 1mo ago
  Well Thiel investing in Brave once at the beginning doesn't necessarily mean that Palantir is getting any data now (even though it's presented as if it was a fact in other comments here). It's probable, but really it's just speculation, just like anyone can speculate about who's getting data from Firefox. But at least with Brave, the initial funding information was made public, so there's already more information available to users in comparison with Mozilla. Mozilla just said: "there are a number of places where we collect and share some data with our partners" - that could mean literally anyone.

tredre3 1mo ago

Telemetry can be disabled in Brave. Any kind of history/bookmark syncing is opt-in. You're just spreading FUD unless you have evidence that Brave funnels usage data in secret.

EbNar 1mo ago

There's no need to make assumptions. The source code is out there. Please, show us the relevant commits which do what you said.