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I always find it weird when people declare things “are” rights, as rights are things societies create. “Should be a right” seems like a more appropriate framing
by purplerabbit 1mo ago
I always find it weird when people declare things “are” rights, as rights are things societies create. “Should be a right” seems like a more appropriate framing
- Kim_Bruning 1mo ago"we hold these thruths to be self evident" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law
- worik 1mo agoSlave owning misogynistic violent elitists Yea, nah
- Kim_Bruning 1mo agoSociety advances step by step (or even 2 steps forward, 1 step back). How much are we betting that in 250 years, we'll be considered immoral too?
- worik 1mo agoProbably.
- kergonath 1mo agoThere are. In the constitution, as the court found. There are also reasonable arguments that they are an unavoidable consequence of Human Rights, as described in the declaration of 1789, which is also in the constitution. The right to privacy is also explicitly in the Code Civil since 1970, in the European Convention on Human Rights and the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union (both are binding to EU member states).
- iamnothere 1mo agoThat’s a simplistic view of rights, and ignores other conceptions of rights like natural rights.
- josefritzishere 1mo agoNuanced, but I don't think you're disagreeing that privacy is a right. Very few people do and most of them would be classified as sociopaths. ex. Zuckerberg, Langley, Altman, et. al. Anti-privacy actions are often immoral, sometimes illegal and almost universally anti-social.
- iamnothere 1mo agoWhere did you get that from? I am not referencing privacy at all. I was responding to the parent who basically said that all rights come from society, which is not at all the historical philosophical basis for rights in the US.
- josefritzishere 1mo agoRights are inalienable. You don't grant them by law. You get them when you're born.
- tancop 1mo agoThe declaration creates the right. For example, if I believe everyone has a right to use drugs then my interactions with others will respect that (no calling cops on junkies) and I see others who violate that right (police) as immoral. From my point of view the right already exists, most others just don't respect it.