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Not web devs per se, I’d be hard pressed to find a serious web dev who wanted to “forcefully sodomize users”. Thats a management thing
by nirava 1mo ago
Not web devs per se, I’d be hard pressed to find a serious web dev who wanted to “forcefully sodomize users”. Thats a management thing
- zetanor 1mo ago"No." If every webdev who would say no can be trivially replaced by webdevs who won't say no, then yes, it is webdevs.
- edoceo 1mo agoIt's silly to blame the individual who doesn't have the authority or power at the business making these choices.
- bonoboTP 1mo agoYou can try to put the blame on the grunts, like trying to focus on the engineers in the VW Dieselgate, etc, but that is very weak leverage. You have to intervene at the root cause of the incentive. But of course the higher you go, the more there is a blur between legislators and business owners and they won't be harsh to themselves.
- zamadatix 1mo agoYou don't really need a web dev to add a cookie banner these days, but you probably still want one to build the actual site (unless it's simple enough to be fully site-as-a-service, in which case there is really no webdev at all). Be it the EU for regulating disclosure and consent requirements, users for being "lazy" and usually just accepting all, or the webdev for not staking their livelihood on denying the banner - I'm sure they'll all get blamed before someone sees the ones actually demanding it be done can be the problem.
- StableAlkyne 1mo ago"Damn, I'm being asked to put a cookie into this site that will maybe result in some guy seeing an ad about a toothpaste he might buy at some point in the future. I'm going to risk months of unemployment and explain to my family why this is more important than eating when I get home. The internet is serious business, they'll understand." -- the hypothetical webdev in that scenario, I guess?
- zetanor 1mo agoIf you can get replaced over something so minor, it means there's dozens of capable bootlickers lined up and ready to do it as soon as you're gone, so yes, there is a webdev problem.
- StableAlkyne 1mo ago> bootlickers Mate, it's just a cookie on a site.
- clan 1mo agoNot quite. That would just be boiling the frog. It is an important fight for our future with our tech overlords. But sure - some will be happy owning nothing. This is really one of those "First They Came" moments. Unfortunately convenience trumps all. So for many "its just a cookie".
- bborud 1mo agoMany of them can't help themselves. I used to have long conversations with frontend developers that "no, when I log on I don't want to be forced through a look-at-the-new-feature-we-made" sequences. And then they went ahead and did it anyway. And usually whatever flag they tried to set to make sure you only saw it once would malfunction, so next time you'd get to click through it all over again. (If you want to tell users about new features, show a unread flag on a notification icon and make it a one-click affair to make it go away. Don't get in users' face with stuff they don't want)