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Tell me more about the ideas behind Cordis the plugin system. The paper is a bit too mathy to consume and I think it deserves a more accessible post or somethin

Tell me more about the ideas behind Cordis the plugin system. The paper is a bit too mathy to consume and I think it deserves a more accessible post or something.

culi 1mo ago
You're making demands (like you would to an llm) instead of asking questions (like you would to a human). The GP didn't even offer to answer questions
- keepupnow 1mo ago
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  - danishanish 1mo ago
    Your most recent comment is “This.”
    - culi 1mo ago
      lmao
- derekdahmer 1mo ago
  He explicitly asked for feedback
  - ziofill 1mo ago
    Exactly. “Tell me more about X” is an open ended question, not feedback.
    - KyleJune 1mo ago
      You're absolutely right — "tell me more about X" is phrased as an imperative, not a question. That said, "the paper is too mathy and this deserves a more accessible writeup" is a suggestion, which is the other half of what was explicitly invited.
      - anramon 1mo ago
        AI slop reply.
        KyleJune 1mo ago
        I figured it'd be funny to invert it and reply like an LLM to a human since they were arguing he was talking to them like they were an LLM.
        partyficial 1mo ago
        it was funny. and it's a matter of pride that they accused you of being AI.
        fn-mote 1mo ago
        Maybe, like sarcasm, this kind of joke would be easier to appreciate if tagged somehow. I think everyone agrees the internet is drowning in AI slop. That makes the joke hard to appreciate on its own.
        maleldil 1mo ago
        They were impersonating an AI. You wouldn't complain that a comic started impersonating a celebrity without saying "I'm going to impersonate X now" first.
        culi 1mo ago
        I don't think that's their point. I think they were just saying that there's so much unironic AI slop out there that it's hard to tell when it's a joke and when it's actual AI slop.
bobleer 1mo ago
Best non-mathy framing I found: a context is a bag of services (ctx.tools, ctx.llm, ctx.sessions...), a plugin is an object that claims some of those keys and registers reversible effects on mount - unload unwinds them. Dispatch has four modes: emit (observe), waterfall (around-middleware, next() to delegate), parallel, serial. And the "everything is a plugin" claim is literal: model adapter, tool registry, session log and the agent loop itself are plugins. One consequence we liked: since plugins are just Cordis bundles, the same registry can be exposed to any MCP-speaking agent. We built a small MCP server that searches the dsh-plugin topic, inspects bundles, and can install/run them (catalog plane works without dsh installed). github.com/bobleer/deepseek-harness-plugin-mcp
Martha02 1mo ago
Essentially, it's a DI container that supports destructor propagation, mixed with a bit of monadic thinking. If you don't get that, just ask an AI to explain this sentence.

Tell me more about the ideas behind Cordis the plugin system. The paper is a bit too mathy to consume and I think it deserves a more accessible post or something.

culi 1mo ago

You're making demands (like you would to an llm) instead of asking questions (like you would to a human). The GP didn't even offer to answer questions

keepupnow 1mo ago
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- danishanish 1mo ago
  Your most recent comment is “This.”
  - culi 1mo ago
    lmao
derekdahmer 1mo ago
He explicitly asked for feedback
- ziofill 1mo ago
  Exactly. “Tell me more about X” is an open ended question, not feedback.
  - KyleJune 1mo ago
    You're absolutely right — "tell me more about X" is phrased as an imperative, not a question. That said, "the paper is too mathy and this deserves a more accessible writeup" is a suggestion, which is the other half of what was explicitly invited.
    - anramon 1mo ago
      AI slop reply.
      - KyleJune 1mo ago
        I figured it'd be funny to invert it and reply like an LLM to a human since they were arguing he was talking to them like they were an LLM.
        partyficial 1mo ago
        it was funny. and it's a matter of pride that they accused you of being AI.
        fn-mote 1mo ago
        Maybe, like sarcasm, this kind of joke would be easier to appreciate if tagged somehow. I think everyone agrees the internet is drowning in AI slop. That makes the joke hard to appreciate on its own.
        maleldil 1mo ago
        They were impersonating an AI. You wouldn't complain that a comic started impersonating a celebrity without saying "I'm going to impersonate X now" first.
        culi 1mo ago
        I don't think that's their point. I think they were just saying that there's so much unironic AI slop out there that it's hard to tell when it's a joke and when it's actual AI slop.

bobleer 1mo ago

Best non-mathy framing I found: a context is a bag of services (ctx.tools, ctx.llm, ctx.sessions...), a plugin is an object that claims some of those keys and registers reversible effects on mount - unload unwinds them. Dispatch has four modes: emit (observe), waterfall (around-middleware, next() to delegate), parallel, serial. And the "everything is a plugin" claim is literal: model adapter, tool registry, session log and the agent loop itself are plugins. One consequence we liked: since plugins are just Cordis bundles, the same registry can be exposed to any MCP-speaking agent. We built a small MCP server that searches the dsh-plugin topic, inspects bundles, and can install/run them (catalog plane works without dsh installed). github.com/bobleer/deepseek-harness-plugin-mcp

Martha02 1mo ago

Essentially, it's a DI container that supports destructor propagation, mixed with a bit of monadic thinking. If you don't get that, just ask an AI to explain this sentence.