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China is much more of a "fossil fuel country" than the US. They've got a ways to go to even catch up. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-mix?tab=stacked

by rsanek 1mo ago

China is much more of a "fossil fuel country" than the US. They've got a ways to go to even catch up. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-mix?tab=stacked-discrete-bar&stackMode=relative&time=latest&country=CHN%7EUSA&source=total&metric=by_source https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-mix?tab=stacked-di...

dopa42365 1mo ago
87.5% vs 83.1% Renewables have to go up by 10x (or more, with electrification of all the things) everywhere pretty much in the coming decades.
scottLobster 1mo ago
Uh, that chart shows they source a greater percentage of their power from renewables than we do with the exception of nuclear and biofuels. Their wind, solar and hydropower bars are all wider, and they're building more nuclear. They just don't have our easy-access shale fields. If it wasn't for fracking our coal percentage would likely be just as high
pnut 1mo ago
I think you're not telling the full story with that chart. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-mix?tab=line&stackMode=relative&country=CHN%7EUSA&source=renewables&metric=total https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-mix?tab=line&stack...
Danox 1mo ago
Thorium Reactors? Look closely at China, they are pursuing all forms of energy Solar, Wind, Gas, Oil, Nuclear and even new Thorium reactors (Courtesy of Oak Ridge, Tennessee) and all forms of batteries Lithium/Sodium ion they are not resting on their laurels anywhere they are willing to use anything, and are open to any solution that works. https://www.neimagazine.com/news/china-refuels-thorium-reactor-without-shutdown/ https://www.neimagazine.com/news/china-refuels-thorium-react... https://china-environment-news.net/2025/06/01/world-first-chinese-scientists-refuel-thorium-reactor-without-shutdown/ https://china-environment-news.net/2025/06/01/world-first-ch... The Chinese are not limiting themselves to just one solution or two they are pursuing all types of technology all types of energy they seem to have an open mind is this where/becuase the oligarchs don’t get to call the shots in their system?
Hikikomori 1mo ago
China installed mora solar than the US has in 2025. They're currently building 35 or so new reactors, at paces nobody else can. This will change quickly.

by rsanek 1mo ago

dopa42365 1mo ago

87.5% vs 83.1% Renewables have to go up by 10x (or more, with electrification of all the things) everywhere pretty much in the coming decades.

scottLobster 1mo ago

Uh, that chart shows they source a greater percentage of their power from renewables than we do with the exception of nuclear and biofuels. Their wind, solar and hydropower bars are all wider, and they're building more nuclear. They just don't have our easy-access shale fields. If it wasn't for fracking our coal percentage would likely be just as high

pnut 1mo ago

I think you're not telling the full story with that chart. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-mix?tab=line&stackMode=relative&country=CHN%7EUSA&source=renewables&metric=total https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/energy-mix?tab=line&stack...

Danox 1mo ago

Thorium Reactors? Look closely at China, they are pursuing all forms of energy Solar, Wind, Gas, Oil, Nuclear and even new Thorium reactors (Courtesy of Oak Ridge, Tennessee) and all forms of batteries Lithium/Sodium ion they are not resting on their laurels anywhere they are willing to use anything, and are open to any solution that works. https://www.neimagazine.com/news/china-refuels-thorium-reactor-without-shutdown/ https://www.neimagazine.com/news/china-refuels-thorium-react... https://china-environment-news.net/2025/06/01/world-first-chinese-scientists-refuel-thorium-reactor-without-shutdown/ https://china-environment-news.net/2025/06/01/world-first-ch... The Chinese are not limiting themselves to just one solution or two they are pursuing all types of technology all types of energy they seem to have an open mind is this where/becuase the oligarchs don’t get to call the shots in their system?

Hikikomori 1mo ago

China installed mora solar than the US has in 2025. They're currently building 35 or so new reactors, at paces nobody else can. This will change quickly.