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>There is zero privacy in public spaces You've agreed that this fact does not preclude uncomfortable scenarios, even for yourself. So, the discussion is about
by unclebucknasty 1mo ago
>There is zero privacy in public spaces
You've agreed that this fact does not preclude uncomfortable scenarios, even for yourself. So, the discussion is about where people fall in their comfort.
I would sum up my response to the rest of your comment by noting the difference between individual citizens recording as they please, and a state-operated, always-on surveillance network, with the capacity to surveil every citizen outside of their homes.
It's worth noting here that the government famously faces stricter constitutional limits than do citizens.
The inefficiency you decry is what others value, as it protects privacy and constrains state power. There's long been a trade-off between efficiency and rights, which much of our legal system seeks to balance—as enshrined in various amendments.
Abuse of the frankly violative sort outlined in this article is but one concern, and likely cannot be properly contained in any case—particularly absent the requirement for warrants. This is precisely the reason warrants exist. We don't merely trust law enforcement to abide by its own "rules".
So, the larger point is that the very existence of state-operated surveillance networks is considered an intrusive form of abuse by many. One that uses previously unimaginable technology to circumvent the spirit of the Fourth Amendment, which consistency tells us would have otherwise explicitly protected us from such abuse.
- veec_cas_tant 1mo ago> One that uses previously unimaginable technology to circumvent the spirit of the Fourth Amendment, which consistency tells us would have otherwise explicitly protected us from such abuse Is it the AI or the number of cameras? It can’t be cameras in general, and I struggle to believe it’s the number of cameras because we have so many cities with tens of thousands of cameras already. So it’s just that it became too efficient and instead, for any investigation, we should pay a team to spend hundreds of man hours collecting and reviewing footage that a computer could have finished immediately?
- unclebucknasty 1mo ago>Is it the AI or the number of cameras? To be clear, the controversy didn't just arise with AI—it only intensified. >we should pay a team to spend hundreds of man hours... Some argue that none of it should be happening, so would say that it should be prohibitively expensive. But, again, the added "efficiency" makes the problem far worse. Inefficiency is the throughline of the Fourth Amendment. You've made clear that you value efficiency. But, you've not addressed any of the actual arguments against it.