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Were they actually "kept unharmed"? If many people are moving out, services start to wither, too. Which pushes even more people to move out. Sure, bringing in

Were they actually "kept unharmed"? If many people are moving out, services start to wither, too. Which pushes even more people to move out. Sure, bringing in tons of tourists where there were initially none is going to change a place. But isn't it a way to keep it alive, even if different? I think the situation is different from places where people actually want to live but are pushed out "by the rich" (tourists or second-home owners).

higeorge13 1mo ago
I think we haven't really seen the effects of tourism to places. - Before airbnb there was some balance in these places: people had regular professions (plumbers, builders, bakers, farmers, agriculture, fishing, hoteliers, etc) - After airbnb: local people saw that opportunity for extra income on the side, also thriving side businesses around tourirm. There is also the existing generation of people still doing these regular professions - Now: local people might have sold their properties to companies managing these airbnbs or foreigners visiting once per couple years. Local people have also enough money to live comfortably somewhere else, number of regular professions is declining or replaced by non-local people, e.g. from India or Pakistan (this is the case for all balkan countries). For reference, a couple years ago, this was done by people from Albania or Romania. - In 20 years: these islands are not inhabited by greek people, only companies maintain these airbnbs or whole villages are left empty. No bakeries are left, no local markets, only large supermarket chains bringing non local food and groceries, noone likes to work as a plumber or baker since they can make money from other stuff. This is how i see the future in these places. I am not talking about the popular ones like Mykonos or Santorini, these are high-income generators and won't have an issue finding "workers". However this is the current state in other non popular islands.
- vladvasiliu 1mo ago
  Right. But how would these places evolve if the regular inhabitants were leaving anyway and tourism didn't come in? In France, many small villages are dying. They're not cute enough or whatever to attract tourists, so as people leave for the cities, local bakeries and other businesses close, lacking clients. They become almost ghost-towns with abandoned homes everywhere.

higeorge13 1mo ago

I think we haven't really seen the effects of tourism to places. - Before airbnb there was some balance in these places: people had regular professions (plumbers, builders, bakers, farmers, agriculture, fishing, hoteliers, etc) - After airbnb: local people saw that opportunity for extra income on the side, also thriving side businesses around tourirm. There is also the existing generation of people still doing these regular professions - Now: local people might have sold their properties to companies managing these airbnbs or foreigners visiting once per couple years. Local people have also enough money to live comfortably somewhere else, number of regular professions is declining or replaced by non-local people, e.g. from India or Pakistan (this is the case for all balkan countries). For reference, a couple years ago, this was done by people from Albania or Romania. - In 20 years: these islands are not inhabited by greek people, only companies maintain these airbnbs or whole villages are left empty. No bakeries are left, no local markets, only large supermarket chains bringing non local food and groceries, noone likes to work as a plumber or baker since they can make money from other stuff. This is how i see the future in these places. I am not talking about the popular ones like Mykonos or Santorini, these are high-income generators and won't have an issue finding "workers". However this is the current state in other non popular islands.

vladvasiliu 1mo ago
Right. But how would these places evolve if the regular inhabitants were leaving anyway and tourism didn't come in? In France, many small villages are dying. They're not cute enough or whatever to attract tourists, so as people leave for the cities, local bakeries and other businesses close, lacking clients. They become almost ghost-towns with abandoned homes everywhere.