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Don't pay them money, instead have children. The reason why they have money is you decide to buy their product instead of spending it on kids. (of course nestle

by po1nt 1mo ago

Don't pay them money, instead have children. The reason why they have money is you decide to buy their product instead of spending it on kids. (of course nestle and similar excluding)

folkrav 1mo ago
Oh come on. Spending it on kids ALSO means buying their products in the end, captive audience and all. Kids come with all sorts of expenses you can't just wave away. Daycare/education. Clothing. Twice the food you would as a couple, not that far down the line. Possibly a larger vehicle, or just a vehicle at all, depending on your pre-kid lifestyle. Larger housing. And that's assuming everything goes well and you don't happen to have special needs or sick kids, meaning healthcare, taking days off, etc. The whole freaking thing makes you pay at every corner. Don't be dense.
- po1nt 1mo ago
  It's a tradition within my family to pass down most of the child stuff, so kids run in second hand clothing that will get puked on, torn, and pooped in anyway. There is no need for a larger car unless you really have a 3+ kids family. You don't need a larger house. That is a scam they are trying to sell you. In case of special needs you are correct. But you need to hope that's not the case.
  - folkrav 1mo ago
    Pass it down depends on having a kid around your age that can pass it down to you. We buy second hand for most, but we still have to buy. Yes, there is a need for a larger car when your original car is tiny, or you didn't have one at all. Yes, there is a need for larger housing cause I lived in a one bedroom apartment. As for special needs, I mean, it always can happen, and you always need to be ready that it's a possibility. Telling people that they should have kids regardless then turning around and leaving them with no resources for it is just irresponsible. You also entirely skipped the most expensive ones. Feeding them, an expense that's been ever growing in the last decade, much faster than inflation. Education and child care, which the cynic in me, having read you say the problems started when women joined the workforce, thinks this is probably cause you think women should stay home for these - I hope I'm wrong. I'd be extremely surprised if your budget didn't radically change before and after having kids, even staying frugal and living within your means.
    - po1nt 1mo ago
      Food is not that expensive when you cook yourself. Children even don't eat that much. Breast milk substitutes are expensive though, I admit. I'm not saying your budget doesn't change after having a child. I'm just saying for a price of a special color on car, vacation and couple nights out, you can afford to have a child for a year. It's not cheap, but most of us are blowing money on useless stuff anyway. Some are donating thousands a year to online creator, game microtransactions, drinks in a bar, designer bags, funko pop collections and such. The lifestyle inflation is real. And thanks to shifting priorities, you might even get yourself into better financial position after a few years, then before having a child.

by po1nt 1mo ago

Don't pay them money, instead have children. The reason why they have money is you decide to buy their product instead of spending it on kids. (of course nestle and similar excluding)

folkrav 1mo ago

Oh come on. Spending it on kids ALSO means buying their products in the end, captive audience and all. Kids come with all sorts of expenses you can't just wave away. Daycare/education. Clothing. Twice the food you would as a couple, not that far down the line. Possibly a larger vehicle, or just a vehicle at all, depending on your pre-kid lifestyle. Larger housing. And that's assuming everything goes well and you don't happen to have special needs or sick kids, meaning healthcare, taking days off, etc. The whole freaking thing makes you pay at every corner. Don't be dense.

po1nt 1mo ago
It's a tradition within my family to pass down most of the child stuff, so kids run in second hand clothing that will get puked on, torn, and pooped in anyway. There is no need for a larger car unless you really have a 3+ kids family. You don't need a larger house. That is a scam they are trying to sell you. In case of special needs you are correct. But you need to hope that's not the case.
- folkrav 1mo ago
  Pass it down depends on having a kid around your age that can pass it down to you. We buy second hand for most, but we still have to buy. Yes, there is a need for a larger car when your original car is tiny, or you didn't have one at all. Yes, there is a need for larger housing cause I lived in a one bedroom apartment. As for special needs, I mean, it always can happen, and you always need to be ready that it's a possibility. Telling people that they should have kids regardless then turning around and leaving them with no resources for it is just irresponsible. You also entirely skipped the most expensive ones. Feeding them, an expense that's been ever growing in the last decade, much faster than inflation. Education and child care, which the cynic in me, having read you say the problems started when women joined the workforce, thinks this is probably cause you think women should stay home for these - I hope I'm wrong. I'd be extremely surprised if your budget didn't radically change before and after having kids, even staying frugal and living within your means.
  - po1nt 1mo ago
    Food is not that expensive when you cook yourself. Children even don't eat that much. Breast milk substitutes are expensive though, I admit. I'm not saying your budget doesn't change after having a child. I'm just saying for a price of a special color on car, vacation and couple nights out, you can afford to have a child for a year. It's not cheap, but most of us are blowing money on useless stuff anyway. Some are donating thousands a year to online creator, game microtransactions, drinks in a bar, designer bags, funko pop collections and such. The lifestyle inflation is real. And thanks to shifting priorities, you might even get yourself into better financial position after a few years, then before having a child.