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In my personal experience basically all spam calls in France come from a fixed set of number prefixes. [0] So phone companies could just offer to block those p

In my personal experience basically all spam calls in France come from a fixed set of number prefixes. [0] So phone companies could just offer to block those prefixes - it would be a trivial solution to the problem. But it's not an option [1], so either they make good money from those calls, or there's some other hurdle or legal issue. Either way the new law could (in addition to making it illegal for companies to make spam calls) also simply have mandated that network operators block the known ones. Too bad. [0] https://lemagdelaconso.ouest-france.fr/dossier-2418-demarchage-telephonique-12-numeros-bloquer-urgence.html https://lemagdelaconso.ouest-france.fr/dossier-2418-demarcha... [1] https://communaute.orange.fr/t5/mon-telephone-par-internet-et/comment-bloquer-les-4-premiers-chiffres-des-num%C3%A9ros-de/td-p/3014216 https://communaute.orange.fr/t5/mon-telephone-par-internet-e...

daneel_w 1mo ago
No, that's a bad idea. There's no hurdle or legal issue, and money isn't behind it either. Those "prefixes" (area codes) are all the same segments of this or that national numbering plan that are also allocated by legitimate businesses both for placing legitimate outbound calls to their customers and for numbers that connect e.g. switchboards/IVRs to serve customers who are calling in.
- dredmorbius 1mo ago
  If a specific region (or more likely: operators within it) are responsible for the vast majority of abusive traffic, then absolutely they should bear the consequences of this. Yes, there's collateral damage, but those negatively affected by being unable to make legitimate calls should be a prime lobby for effective egress control from their respective operators and regulators. Pain exists for a reason. It's negative feedback.
  - daneel_w 1mo ago
    The ones to really bear the consequences are legitimate businesses and the customers of these businesses. It sounds like your desire to see offenders punished, instead of the problem actually being solved with the help of functional regulations, makes you incapable of seeing the wider picture.

daneel_w 1mo ago

No, that's a bad idea. There's no hurdle or legal issue, and money isn't behind it either. Those "prefixes" (area codes) are all the same segments of this or that national numbering plan that are also allocated by legitimate businesses both for placing legitimate outbound calls to their customers and for numbers that connect e.g. switchboards/IVRs to serve customers who are calling in.

dredmorbius 1mo ago
If a specific region (or more likely: operators within it) are responsible for the vast majority of abusive traffic, then absolutely they should bear the consequences of this. Yes, there's collateral damage, but those negatively affected by being unable to make legitimate calls should be a prime lobby for effective egress control from their respective operators and regulators. Pain exists for a reason. It's negative feedback.
- daneel_w 1mo ago
  The ones to really bear the consequences are legitimate businesses and the customers of these businesses. It sounds like your desire to see offenders punished, instead of the problem actually being solved with the help of functional regulations, makes you incapable of seeing the wider picture.