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> ... who recently converted Bun code from Zig to Rust via Claude ... The project that is full of bugs and not really working? I probably missed something but

> ... who recently converted Bun code from Zig to Rust via Claude ... The project that is full of bugs and not really working? I probably missed something but I was under the impression that even a "simple" translation like that couldn't be properly done and that the result was, well, buggy? Where's that thing at?

terhechte 1mo ago
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- aureate 1mo ago
  > Most likely next Tuesday we’ll do the release of 1.4. Next Tuesday, otherwise known as last Tuesday. Still no 1.4 at https://bun.com/blog https://bun.com/blog. I'm very curious to see what happens when 1.4 does get released for real. Releasing Claude Code on it is much easier as they own Claude Code and can get Claude to work on Bun with fixing some specific behaviour in Claude Code as an objective. Releasing it for the world, and doing it well enough that it doesn't result in everyone pinning on the old version and forks springing up, involves reproducing all the behaviours of the old version, documented/tested and otherwise, that projects are relying on - which, by Hyrum's law, is all of them.
- solid_fuel 1mo ago
  > to the detriment of the whole club of stochastic parrot folk What an interesting and pointless way to refer to “experts who understand what an LLM actually is”
  - nl 1mo ago
    The concept of "stochastic parrot" is that an LLM merely parrots its training data with some randomness. We now know that isn't true - LLMs build complex internal models and output based on that. See for example https://arxiv.org/html/2505.23323v1 https://arxiv.org/html/2505.23323v1 Also, you are commenting on a post where a LLM made significant progress on the Riemann hypothesis. Even the most extreme interpretation of these results, ie claiming that it was "only linking existing literature" goes well beyond a "stochastic parrot" - it had to be able to link disparate insights across multiple fields.
    - jdub 1mo ago
      only if you don't understand the difference between metaphor and analogy
    - solid_fuel 1mo ago
      > Also, you are commenting on a post where a LLM made significant progress on the Riemann hypothesis. Actually you're commenting on a post where an LLM used existing insights to make a small improvement to the bounds of the Riemann Hypothesis by applying the existing insight to an existing theoretical approach. This is the core problem and missing it betrays your lack of understanding: an LLM was used to apply existing work to an existing approach, there was no innovation on the part of the parrot.
  - rcxdude 1mo ago
    The people who refer to LLMs as stochastic parrots generally do so to imply significant limits on an LLMs ability, not as an abstract statement about the underlying mechanism of how they work. Probably the defining thing that is surprising about LLMs is that they do in fact gain significantly more capability than you would expect from such a simple underlying mechanism!
not_a9 1mo ago
To the best of my knowledge: doesn’t the current build of Claude Code use the Rust port of Bun?

terhechte 1mo ago

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aureate 1mo ago
> Most likely next Tuesday we’ll do the release of 1.4. Next Tuesday, otherwise known as last Tuesday. Still no 1.4 at https://bun.com/blog https://bun.com/blog. I'm very curious to see what happens when 1.4 does get released for real. Releasing Claude Code on it is much easier as they own Claude Code and can get Claude to work on Bun with fixing some specific behaviour in Claude Code as an objective. Releasing it for the world, and doing it well enough that it doesn't result in everyone pinning on the old version and forks springing up, involves reproducing all the behaviours of the old version, documented/tested and otherwise, that projects are relying on - which, by Hyrum's law, is all of them.
solid_fuel 1mo ago
> to the detriment of the whole club of stochastic parrot folk What an interesting and pointless way to refer to “experts who understand what an LLM actually is”
- nl 1mo ago
  The concept of "stochastic parrot" is that an LLM merely parrots its training data with some randomness. We now know that isn't true - LLMs build complex internal models and output based on that. See for example https://arxiv.org/html/2505.23323v1 https://arxiv.org/html/2505.23323v1 Also, you are commenting on a post where a LLM made significant progress on the Riemann hypothesis. Even the most extreme interpretation of these results, ie claiming that it was "only linking existing literature" goes well beyond a "stochastic parrot" - it had to be able to link disparate insights across multiple fields.
  - jdub 1mo ago
    only if you don't understand the difference between metaphor and analogy
  - solid_fuel 1mo ago
    > Also, you are commenting on a post where a LLM made significant progress on the Riemann hypothesis. Actually you're commenting on a post where an LLM used existing insights to make a small improvement to the bounds of the Riemann Hypothesis by applying the existing insight to an existing theoretical approach. This is the core problem and missing it betrays your lack of understanding: an LLM was used to apply existing work to an existing approach, there was no innovation on the part of the parrot.
- rcxdude 1mo ago
  The people who refer to LLMs as stochastic parrots generally do so to imply significant limits on an LLMs ability, not as an abstract statement about the underlying mechanism of how they work. Probably the defining thing that is surprising about LLMs is that they do in fact gain significantly more capability than you would expect from such a simple underlying mechanism!

not_a9 1mo ago

To the best of my knowledge: doesn’t the current build of Claude Code use the Rust port of Bun?