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87% of Poles own a house in comparison to 67% in US.

by ajuc 1mo ago

WhrRTheBaboons 1mo ago
you got a source for that?
- ajuc 1mo ago
  https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/home-ownership-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/home-owne... Also my bad, it's 65.7% for US and 87.3% for Poland
  - WhrRTheBaboons 1mo ago
    A website does not a source make. It's citing a wikipedia article, which itself has been flagged for needing a better source [0]. The wikipedia in turn cites Statista [1], which claims this is "original data" that cannot be verified without a paid account. Additionally, the number itself seems to actually be taken from Eurostat (an actual source) [2], which helpfully defines what they mean as the 87% for Poland. Surprise, surprise, it's not actually "87% of Poles own a house". It's "87% of Poles live in households owning or renting their home". That's also conveniently missing from another headline-grabbing numbers like "16% share of housing costs to total disposable income", which refers to the total income of the entire household. And if you want to delve deeper as for why these numbers might be what they are, you have to consider the following too: Poland has Europe's 2nd highest share (>50%) of adults living with in their parents' home [3], with 3rd lowest average number of rooms per person [2], 2nd highest household size (number of people) [2], with one third of people living in overcrowded homes (3rd highest in Europe, vs the EU average of 16%)[2]. All this being said, I don't doubt for a second that US is much worse in this regard. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owner-occupancy#International_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owner-occupancy#International_... [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/246355/home-ownership-rate-in-europe/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/246355/home-ownership-ra... [2] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/interactive-publications/housing-2025 https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/interactive-publications/h... [3] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/ilc_lvps09/default/table?lang=en https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/ilc_lvps09/de...
    - sph 1mo ago
      All this effort to disprove OP's figures and source, without providing your supposedly accurate figures. What's the point?
      - WhrRTheBaboons 1mo ago
        what? i literally include the (actually sourced) eurostat figures in the comment. they just don't measure what OP was saying they do. do you want me to run my own study of personal home ownership or something? lol
sumek83 1mo ago
due to large percentage of younger people not being able to afford to move away from their parents

87% of Poles own a house in comparison to 67% in US.

by ajuc 1mo ago

87% of Poles own a house in comparison to 67% in US.

WhrRTheBaboons 1mo ago

you got a source for that?

ajuc 1mo ago
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/home-ownership-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/home-owne... Also my bad, it's 65.7% for US and 87.3% for Poland
- WhrRTheBaboons 1mo ago
  A website does not a source make. It's citing a wikipedia article, which itself has been flagged for needing a better source [0]. The wikipedia in turn cites Statista [1], which claims this is "original data" that cannot be verified without a paid account. Additionally, the number itself seems to actually be taken from Eurostat (an actual source) [2], which helpfully defines what they mean as the 87% for Poland. Surprise, surprise, it's not actually "87% of Poles own a house". It's "87% of Poles live in households owning or renting their home". That's also conveniently missing from another headline-grabbing numbers like "16% share of housing costs to total disposable income", which refers to the total income of the entire household. And if you want to delve deeper as for why these numbers might be what they are, you have to consider the following too: Poland has Europe's 2nd highest share (>50%) of adults living with in their parents' home [3], with 3rd lowest average number of rooms per person [2], 2nd highest household size (number of people) [2], with one third of people living in overcrowded homes (3rd highest in Europe, vs the EU average of 16%)[2]. All this being said, I don't doubt for a second that US is much worse in this regard. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owner-occupancy#International_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owner-occupancy#International_... [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/246355/home-ownership-rate-in-europe/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/246355/home-ownership-ra... [2] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/interactive-publications/housing-2025 https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/interactive-publications/h... [3] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/ilc_lvps09/default/table?lang=en https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/ilc_lvps09/de...
  - sph 1mo ago
    All this effort to disprove OP's figures and source, without providing your supposedly accurate figures. What's the point?
    - WhrRTheBaboons 1mo ago
      what? i literally include the (actually sourced) eurostat figures in the comment. they just don't measure what OP was saying they do. do you want me to run my own study of personal home ownership or something? lol

sumek83 1mo ago

due to large percentage of younger people not being able to afford to move away from their parents