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Yeah, people act like this style is new, when it absolutely is not. There's this weird romanticism of the time pre-LLMs where people imply all writing/code was

by matwood 1mo ago

Yeah, people act like this style is new, when it absolutely is not. There's this weird romanticism of the time pre-LLMs where people imply all writing/code was perfect, and only now it's slop. EDIT I also read your linked comment and agree 100%.

lelanthran 1mo ago
> Yeah, people act like this style is new, when it absolutely is not. Every time this claim is made I ask for a link to a pre-2022 blog or article that has all those AI tells. I'm still waiting for it. I don't think I will ever receive it.
- ChrisMarshallNY 1mo ago
  It's likely because no one could be bothered to respond. There's plenty there, but it's not their job to fetch it for you. People on the Internet (especially here), seem to think that it's OK to make rude demands of complete strangers, and expect them to spend considerable time, meeting them. I'd rather some rando think they "won the Internet," than spend a bunch of my time, working for free, just to satisfy them. I have better things to do with my time, and I don't really have a lot of investment in what complete strangers think of me. Sometimes, the fox ain't worth the chase.
  - lelanthran 1mo ago
    > There's plenty there, but it's not their job to fetch it for you. It's been asked about 30 times now. If it existed, someone would have posted it. Maybe you.
    - ChrisMarshallNY 1mo ago
      No (see above) One of the things that I learned, about the time I lost my baby teeth, is that making rude demands of people, instead of working with them, is likely to result in exactly the opposite. Chances are good, that you learned this, as well, which might explain the rude demands. They are unlikely to be met, so the matter stays open.
      - lelanthran 1mo ago
        If it can't be found, it can't be found *shrug I mean, even the SOTA models couldn't pull up examples when asked, so it's no surprise that HN readers can't find any examples either. They just don't exist...
        ChrisMarshallNY 1mo ago
        I apologize for my inferior communication skills. It appears as if I am unable to make the point clear. It has nothing at all to do with the matter at hand, and everything to do with communication style. Have a great day!
    - imthatsteve 1mo ago
      Your clearly doing it wrong, on the internet your supposed to make a positive claim such as; No blog exists from the pre-llm days that include the llm-isms. And then you wait for the internet trolls to come out of the woodwork and prove you wrong. You dont ask people on the internet to provide you with some kinda proof because nobody can be bothered, you dont even ask them to prove you wrong because they cant be bothered. You have to confidently and boldly assert your false claim and that will enrage some poor autists somewhere into doing what you want.

by matwood 1mo ago

lelanthran 1mo ago

> Yeah, people act like this style is new, when it absolutely is not. Every time this claim is made I ask for a link to a pre-2022 blog or article that has all those AI tells. I'm still waiting for it. I don't think I will ever receive it.

ChrisMarshallNY 1mo ago
It's likely because no one could be bothered to respond. There's plenty there, but it's not their job to fetch it for you. People on the Internet (especially here), seem to think that it's OK to make rude demands of complete strangers, and expect them to spend considerable time, meeting them. I'd rather some rando think they "won the Internet," than spend a bunch of my time, working for free, just to satisfy them. I have better things to do with my time, and I don't really have a lot of investment in what complete strangers think of me. Sometimes, the fox ain't worth the chase.
- lelanthran 1mo ago
  > There's plenty there, but it's not their job to fetch it for you. It's been asked about 30 times now. If it existed, someone would have posted it. Maybe you.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 1mo ago
    No (see above) One of the things that I learned, about the time I lost my baby teeth, is that making rude demands of people, instead of working with them, is likely to result in exactly the opposite. Chances are good, that you learned this, as well, which might explain the rude demands. They are unlikely to be met, so the matter stays open.
    - lelanthran 1mo ago
      If it can't be found, it can't be found *shrug I mean, even the SOTA models couldn't pull up examples when asked, so it's no surprise that HN readers can't find any examples either. They just don't exist...
      - ChrisMarshallNY 1mo ago
        I apologize for my inferior communication skills. It appears as if I am unable to make the point clear. It has nothing at all to do with the matter at hand, and everything to do with communication style. Have a great day!
  - imthatsteve 1mo ago
    Your clearly doing it wrong, on the internet your supposed to make a positive claim such as; No blog exists from the pre-llm days that include the llm-isms. And then you wait for the internet trolls to come out of the woodwork and prove you wrong. You dont ask people on the internet to provide you with some kinda proof because nobody can be bothered, you dont even ask them to prove you wrong because they cant be bothered. You have to confidently and boldly assert your false claim and that will enrage some poor autists somewhere into doing what you want.