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Those are not choices on a form with race. Presented with a form they would select white. Nationalism isn't race. You are losing the debate changing goalpost

by ipaddr 1mo ago

Those are not choices on a form with race. Presented with a form they would select white. Nationalism isn't race. You are losing the debate changing goalposts doesn't work.

vrganj 1mo ago
There is no such thing as race in Europe. You still do not understand the very fundamentals. The forms would not indicate white, they'd indicate Croat and Serbian. Here's the census from back when they shared a country: [0]. Note the absence of "white". A Croat will never agree they are the same anything as a Serb. Your limited understanding smushed millennia of history into the primitive categories your country developed in it's short existence. They have zero meaning here and your continued ignorance serves as example why it would be better for everyone if you stopped talking about things you know nothing about. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Socialist_...
- ipaddr 1mo ago
  "no such thing as race in Europe" You lost the debate here. People classify themselves in a million ways. But we are talking race. Next you'll say there are no males or females just Croats or Serbs. No blonds or brown haired people just Serbs or Croats. Lol.
  - vrganj 1mo ago
    Again, you don't understand. Race is absolutely meaningless here. It is a concept developed in the US a few hundred years ago to justify slavery. You insist it maps to our continent, which has had identities develop long before we came to invade your part of the world. It does not, no matter how much you insist. You told me it's what people would pick on forms. I showed you the form. It wasn't even an option. There is no debate. It is just you trying to map your racial animus to a set of societies that based on your continued confusion are much too complex for you to understand and me trying to educate you. Croats and Serbs are just the most obvious example. We can also play the same game with Poles and Russians or any number of ethnicities.
    - ipaddr 1mo ago
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      - vrganj 1mo ago
        You are trying to muddle millennia of identity into the primitive broad strokes that are the only thing your country is capable of. A Pole is fundamentally different from an Englishman is fundamentally different from a Greek. Your silly wide standards do not apply here and any argument based on them deserves to be laughed out of the room.
        surgical_fire 1mo ago
        I commend your patience in trying to debate a racist. But you proved it is futile. Racism must be some sort of cognitive disability. He is completely unable to understand how the world works beyond skin color.
        ipaddr 1mo ago
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        vrganj 1mo ago
        The only one that sounds racist is you, espousing Great Replacement conspiracy theories. But you know that and now that you've fully run out of talking points, there's nothing left but projection. This has become thoroughly unproductive, you have demonstrated for everyone to see you're not interested in actually learning, just in spreading hate. Theres no point engaging anymore, I believe your own comments have sufficiently demonstrated the inconsistency and vileness of the message you're trying to push.
        ipaddr 1mo ago
        What you said was very racist. I've been saying people are basically the same and you've tried to create tribal divisions and pretend to speak for a half a billion people. I think people have more in common and you see difference. In all of your message you assume a Polish person or Englishman or Croats are white. Many people of different color skin have citizenship in Poland or Serbia and that makes them Polish. Your type of tribalism is dangerous and offensive to others.
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by ipaddr 1mo ago

Those are not choices on a form with race. Presented with a form they would select white. Nationalism isn't race. You are losing the debate changing goalposts doesn't work.

vrganj 1mo ago

There is no such thing as race in Europe. You still do not understand the very fundamentals. The forms would not indicate white, they'd indicate Croat and Serbian. Here's the census from back when they shared a country: [0]. Note the absence of "white". A Croat will never agree they are the same anything as a Serb. Your limited understanding smushed millennia of history into the primitive categories your country developed in it's short existence. They have zero meaning here and your continued ignorance serves as example why it would be better for everyone if you stopped talking about things you know nothing about. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Socialist_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Socialist_...

ipaddr 1mo ago
"no such thing as race in Europe" You lost the debate here. People classify themselves in a million ways. But we are talking race. Next you'll say there are no males or females just Croats or Serbs. No blonds or brown haired people just Serbs or Croats. Lol.
- vrganj 1mo ago
  Again, you don't understand. Race is absolutely meaningless here. It is a concept developed in the US a few hundred years ago to justify slavery. You insist it maps to our continent, which has had identities develop long before we came to invade your part of the world. It does not, no matter how much you insist. You told me it's what people would pick on forms. I showed you the form. It wasn't even an option. There is no debate. It is just you trying to map your racial animus to a set of societies that based on your continued confusion are much too complex for you to understand and me trying to educate you. Croats and Serbs are just the most obvious example. We can also play the same game with Poles and Russians or any number of ethnicities.
  - ipaddr 1mo ago
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    - vrganj 1mo ago
      You are trying to muddle millennia of identity into the primitive broad strokes that are the only thing your country is capable of. A Pole is fundamentally different from an Englishman is fundamentally different from a Greek. Your silly wide standards do not apply here and any argument based on them deserves to be laughed out of the room.
      - surgical_fire 1mo ago
        I commend your patience in trying to debate a racist. But you proved it is futile. Racism must be some sort of cognitive disability. He is completely unable to understand how the world works beyond skin color.
      - ipaddr 1mo ago
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        vrganj 1mo ago
        The only one that sounds racist is you, espousing Great Replacement conspiracy theories. But you know that and now that you've fully run out of talking points, there's nothing left but projection. This has become thoroughly unproductive, you have demonstrated for everyone to see you're not interested in actually learning, just in spreading hate. Theres no point engaging anymore, I believe your own comments have sufficiently demonstrated the inconsistency and vileness of the message you're trying to push.
        ipaddr 1mo ago
        What you said was very racist. I've been saying people are basically the same and you've tried to create tribal divisions and pretend to speak for a half a billion people. I think people have more in common and you see difference. In all of your message you assume a Polish person or Englishman or Croats are white. Many people of different color skin have citizenship in Poland or Serbia and that makes them Polish. Your type of tribalism is dangerous and offensive to others.
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