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Most phones won't boot without the battery. Obvious workaround is to connect a power supply (and large cap) directly to the BMS, but in my experience most phon
by daemonologist 1mo ago
Most phones won't boot without the battery. Obvious workaround is to connect a power supply (and large cap) directly to the BMS, but in my experience most phones will shut themselves down when they think they've drawn more than the capacity of their battery, even if the voltage is still high. You can sometimes get around that by rebooting the device every couple of hours (and there might be a software/firmware fix in some cases?), but it's a lot less annoying to just accept a small risk of a house fire.
- hnuser123456 1mo agoYou could throw the phone in an ammo canister, if the wifi AP is close enough. When I was building hobby quadcopters, which requires several ~half-pound batteries that are a chemistry optimized for maximum power density, a lot of guys recommended steel ammo cans for battery storage.
- Forgeties79 1mo agoI’m also an ammo-case-for-drone-batteries guy but they aren’t running and don’t generate heat. A phone would cook right?
- johnecheck 1mo agoDepends on how well the canister insulates it. Steel conducts heat fairly well; it'd get hot inside but I'd guess some airflow around the canister would probably keep it from getting hot enough to cook the electronics. (definitely don't take my word for it lol)
- hnuser123456 1mo agoPhones are very low power, likely just a slightly warm spot on the can that radiates, conducts, and convects the heat out. You could also use one of those peltier module phone coolers, to ensure the heat gets out of the phone and into the air faster.
- datadrivenangel 1mo agoin a steady state closed container a peltier cooler will just increase total heat and not help your phone.
- Forgeties79 1mo agoThat’s seems like a lot of work when a $200 box will solve it all without the need lol
- jdiff 1mo agoHow many phones have you tested this with?
- embedding-shape 1mo ago> but it's a lot less annoying to just accept a small risk of a house fire. Agree! But do get one or two of those "small automatic fire extinguisher" or whatever they are, that you can attach on stuff, for electrical panels and what not, and put right next to it together with a traditional fire alarm, and you're good to go :)
- nine_k 1mo agoNo extinguisher can stop a lithium battery fire. Putting the phone into a metal box, and the box, onto something not flammable, would help.
- embedding-shape 1mo ago> No extinguisher can stop a lithium battery fire. Maybe eventually everything around it can be so wet/burned out that the battery fire slowly just ends? The room would probably be fucked anyway...
- Barbing 1mo agoSuspend metal box in larger metal box?