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Of course there is, but what difficulties can you possibly have finding it? Part of the problem with events like these is people's "incredulity", which is fund

Of course there is, but what difficulties can you possibly have finding it? Part of the problem with events like these is people's "incredulity", which is fundamentally rooted in them not being force-fed with the topic by the media despite the importance. The other way around, while people baselessly believe to be told everything of importance by their news-feed, in reality they are entirely being left in the dark about truly important matters simply by not "pushing" them in headlines. The stories exist, you simply don't get them effortlessly. That attitude of passive complacency has to change. Look in this thread, the good links are usually those far down.

bruckie 1mo ago
I ctrl-Fed for "http" in this post and looked through the 61 links, following several of them that seemed like they may be relevant. I didn't find anything that appeared talked about what you've mentioned in your posts. Some talked about deaths, but I didn't find anything that even insinuated that they were carried about by or on behalf of the intelligence community. I also did a web search for "intelligence community housecleaning" and looked through the top 60 results. I didn't find much. Several references talked about people being fired, but I didn't find any about them being killed. I'd like to think I'm reasonably intelligent and web-literate, but after 15-20 minutes I didn't find what I was looking for. Maybe I'm just going about it the wrong way? Given how much you've posted on the topic, it seems like you want to convince people; if so, could you post some sources directly?
- Loquebantur 1mo ago
  Thanks, that's actually valuable feedback. You missed, for instance, this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_%28miniseries%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_%28miniseries%29 It's (perhaps surprisingly) based on true events and might give some idea of the difficulties with even discussing the topic. There are also various links like this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_... If you dig there, you'll sooner or later hit upon the weird discrepancies from reality that Wikipedia article has. It mixes unrelated cases with genuinely disturbing ones like McCasland. Who wasn't demented at all. "Housecleaning" refers to the practice of killing prospective leaks. It doesn't make much sense to kill them once they've talked. Killing is a last resort, mundane leaks are retaliated against by revoking clearances and destroying careers that way. Note that the Espionage Act of 1917(!) allows to treat whistleblowers like foreign spies and deprives them of arguing, their leak would serve the common interest. Actual cases are usually ruled "suicides" or "accidents", but obviously aren't: Danny Casolaro (1991): "The Octopus" Investigation Gary Webb (2004): The "Dark Alliance" Expose Dr. David Kelly (2003): Iraq War WMD Leaker John P. Wheeler III (2010): Pentagon Insider ... there are many others. You only find what you look for.
mannanj 1mo ago
I want to read your original claim but it was censored. I am aware of the IC community being active on these forums and using algorithm/actors to downvote and hide information. Would you share it again here or send it via DM? Sorry you’ve had to face this.
- Loquebantur 1mo ago
  https://archive.ph/W2tpE https://archive.ph/W2tpE > One of the dead was Technical Sergeant Kevin Stallings, a digital network intelligence analyst whose family told Bloomberg they wanted him to be identified to bring greater attention to the suicides. Stallings was stationed at Fort Meade, Maryland, Cyber Command’s headquarters. He took his own life the month before he’d have turned 37. These people aren't "drone operators", they worked for USCYBERCOM, which does "hacker stuff". The narrative peddled here repeatedly, the statistics were "completely normal" is egregiously wrong. The concentration of deaths is entirely implausibly described as "suicides", while the far more likely explanation is "housecleaning": murdering potential whistleblowers.
  - mannanj 1mo ago
    Yes. I saw that post, it was still up. I can see that being true. Did you see my posts? I was targeted by the CIA or an intel agency, as a pakistani-american US citizen who has committed no crimes and only spoke up against calling my own government's agency terrorists. I saw what I could describe as behavior online resembling deep state astroturfing and fake accounts, and later agents showed up to experiment on me. I have been wondering if the odd behavior is that resembling a group that wants to try to houseclean me. This isn't a made up instance and you can look through my comment history for examples of how accounts that seem odd show up and in lock-step discredit and attack me. I think this is more evidence for your perspective being possible and not to feel gaslight and made out to be crazy.

bruckie 1mo ago

I ctrl-Fed for "http" in this post and looked through the 61 links, following several of them that seemed like they may be relevant. I didn't find anything that appeared talked about what you've mentioned in your posts. Some talked about deaths, but I didn't find anything that even insinuated that they were carried about by or on behalf of the intelligence community. I also did a web search for "intelligence community housecleaning" and looked through the top 60 results. I didn't find much. Several references talked about people being fired, but I didn't find any about them being killed. I'd like to think I'm reasonably intelligent and web-literate, but after 15-20 minutes I didn't find what I was looking for. Maybe I'm just going about it the wrong way? Given how much you've posted on the topic, it seems like you want to convince people; if so, could you post some sources directly?

Loquebantur 1mo ago
Thanks, that's actually valuable feedback. You missed, for instance, this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_%28miniseries%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormwood_%28miniseries%29 It's (perhaps surprisingly) based on true events and might give some idea of the difficulties with even discussing the topic. There are also various links like this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_scientists_conspiracy_... If you dig there, you'll sooner or later hit upon the weird discrepancies from reality that Wikipedia article has. It mixes unrelated cases with genuinely disturbing ones like McCasland. Who wasn't demented at all. "Housecleaning" refers to the practice of killing prospective leaks. It doesn't make much sense to kill them once they've talked. Killing is a last resort, mundane leaks are retaliated against by revoking clearances and destroying careers that way. Note that the Espionage Act of 1917(!) allows to treat whistleblowers like foreign spies and deprives them of arguing, their leak would serve the common interest. Actual cases are usually ruled "suicides" or "accidents", but obviously aren't: Danny Casolaro (1991): "The Octopus" Investigation Gary Webb (2004): The "Dark Alliance" Expose Dr. David Kelly (2003): Iraq War WMD Leaker John P. Wheeler III (2010): Pentagon Insider ... there are many others. You only find what you look for.

mannanj 1mo ago

I want to read your original claim but it was censored. I am aware of the IC community being active on these forums and using algorithm/actors to downvote and hide information. Would you share it again here or send it via DM? Sorry you’ve had to face this.

Loquebantur 1mo ago
https://archive.ph/W2tpE https://archive.ph/W2tpE > One of the dead was Technical Sergeant Kevin Stallings, a digital network intelligence analyst whose family told Bloomberg they wanted him to be identified to bring greater attention to the suicides. Stallings was stationed at Fort Meade, Maryland, Cyber Command’s headquarters. He took his own life the month before he’d have turned 37. These people aren't "drone operators", they worked for USCYBERCOM, which does "hacker stuff". The narrative peddled here repeatedly, the statistics were "completely normal" is egregiously wrong. The concentration of deaths is entirely implausibly described as "suicides", while the far more likely explanation is "housecleaning": murdering potential whistleblowers.
- mannanj 1mo ago
  Yes. I saw that post, it was still up. I can see that being true. Did you see my posts? I was targeted by the CIA or an intel agency, as a pakistani-american US citizen who has committed no crimes and only spoke up against calling my own government's agency terrorists. I saw what I could describe as behavior online resembling deep state astroturfing and fake accounts, and later agents showed up to experiment on me. I have been wondering if the odd behavior is that resembling a group that wants to try to houseclean me. This isn't a made up instance and you can look through my comment history for examples of how accounts that seem odd show up and in lock-step discredit and attack me. I think this is more evidence for your perspective being possible and not to feel gaslight and made out to be crazy.