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Take a look at how they play with regards to chat control. The EU is just the same corrupt BS like D.C., only with a lot more virtue signaling.
by perks_12 1mo ago
Take a look at how they play with regards to chat control. The EU is just the same corrupt BS like D.C., only with a lot more virtue signaling.
- DavideNL 1mo agoWhat you do is called "black-and-white thinking" : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)?useskin=vector https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)?useskin...
- jacquesm 1mo agoSorry, I don't agree with that. The amount of corruption in the USA right now is simply off the scale.
- sneak 1mo agoNah, it’s just more visible. It’s not that much of a sea change. And it’s ridiculously naive to pretend that the major countries in Europe don’t have their own mechanisms to regularly and effectively bypass any democratic inconveniences when necessary. They regularly push through things that no constituent would ever want or vote for.
- Lio 1mo agoTrump just dropped the part of his lawsuit against the BBC where he claimed it damaged his business because he would have to expose what his business is. The Trump regime a way more corrupt than anything currently seen in Europe. He currently attempting to steal Greenland so he can strip it of mineral assets for fucks sack. No politician in Europe is starting wars for personal gain. Only Trump and Putin. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly5wyynv9zo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly5wyynv9zo
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- fragmede 1mo ago> No politician in Europe is starting wars for personal gain. Isn't that that basically the history of Europe? A short French or German or English or Roman dude starting a war for personal gain?
- inigyou 1mo agoNot recently though. Unless you count Putin.
- Lio 1mo agoThat's the history of every country and every empire, not just Europe. Is that the standard we're holding Trump to though? Do you really think it's OK for him to invade other countries for personal enrichment because historic tyrants also did the same?
- LastTrain 1mo agoNah, it’s worse now than ever.
- jacquesm 1mo agoYou're right, just the other day our MP lined his pockets to the tune of a couple of billion, pumped his shitcoin, tipped off his friends about about the stock market movements he was going to cause, sent a couple of good deals to his kids and threatened war on a couple of countries just to please his buddies. And that's just the last couple of months... /s
- FireBeyond 1mo agoOh, and will sell you access to his market-moving tweets for $100K a month, so you know and can get your stock trades set before the plebes do.
- FireBeyond 1mo agoMeanwhile the President sits in the Oval Office and says, in a televised interview, with absolutely no shame, that all of his kids and family are insider trading, all the time.
- ffsm8 1mo agoMeanwhile in Germany insider trading is completely legal for politicians. Well, not insider trading - but it's definition supposedly doesn't extend beyond internal business information. (At least that's what people keep telling me, im not a lawyer)
- dubbel 1mo agoInsider trading is it course not legal for politicians in Germany, as you could have found out without being a lawyer. That being said, transparency/reporting duties for members of parliament/ministers can and should definitely be improved.
- ffsm8 1mo agoThe point was that the definition of insider trading does not extend to politicians buying/selling from their "insider knowledge" as it's not internal business knowledge. Hence it is legal (in Germany) for politicians to buy/sell right before passing laws which influence the valuation of companies. Which I may add: you could've easily found out yourself too if you looked up what I wrote.
- phatfish 1mo agoWhich laws get passed under complete secrecy that politicians can trade based on? They are usually debated for months/years. Even if something is rushed through fast (like during COVID?) it is public knowledge. The issue in America is the president has more power to act unilaterally (maybe to address his/her own interests, maybe not) than any European politician.
- lxgr 1mo ago
- drnick1 1mo agoIt's not, you're just watching CNN too much.
- usernomdeguerre 1mo agoor maybe you're watching Fox News too much?
- sscaryterry 1mo agoNot nearly the same thing. Trump and his family have made billions. I cannot say the same of von der Leyen.
- carlosjobim 1mo agoWhich of those two leaders were elected by the people?
- benj111 1mo agoSo? If you're directly elected by the people you can behave how you damn well please? Except trump isn't because you have the electoral college. I live in the UK, on paper we have an absolutely terrible version of democracy. No constitution, and un elected head of state. Compared to pre pull out Afghanistan it sucks. And yet we are still here. Perfect on paper democracy isn't the be all and end all. It's about institutional culture. The EU has a much better democratic culture than the US does.
- hamper653 1mo agoAmerican presidents are notoriously not elected by the people.
- izacus 1mo agoCertainly Van Der Leyen. I suggest you show up for next EU election if you don't like the option.
- izacus 1mo agoA parliamentary process where a law is being proposed, amended and voted upon isn't "corruption". Just because you disagree with a law, that doesn't make it "corruption" - it does make you an authoritarian that attacks democracy as soon as other people don't vote like you want.
- hulitu 1mo ago> A parliamentary process where a law is being proposed, amended and voted upon isn't "corruption". If the law is initiated by the parliament and not by some company through lobby. Lobby is corruption.
- inigyou 1mo agoChat control 1 was rejected by the parliament and then passed anyway because parliament doesn't matter. Hardly democratic.
- izacus 1mo agoThat's a lie - chat control was amended and then passed via parliament vote. Please stop spreading fabrications - even when you dislike the result. That's fascist behaviour.
- inigyou 1mo agoThe majority of parliamentarians voted against it. This was considered a pass, because it didn't meet some arbitrary threshold to block it.
- izacus 1mo agoWith 276 MEPs in favor. Vote them out in 2029 if you want to change that.
- inigyou 1mo agoAnd 314 voted against. "Chat control 1" is the deliberately misleading name for "Facebook is not banned from using CSAM scanners on your DMs if it wants to" - I don't think it's worth voting someone out based on that. The one that bans encryption is called "chat control 2". I assume they've both got the same name as part of a deception tactic.
- inigyou 1mo agoChat control 1 or 2?