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We sure do. They mostly work in federal government and government contracting corporations. There are multiple clearly documented repeated drone strikes on US c
by superkuh 1mo ago
We sure do. They mostly work in federal government and government contracting corporations. There are multiple clearly documented repeated drone strikes on US citizens, even US citizen minors, who never were even indicted with a crime, that ended in assassination. Like the two intentional strikes it took to kill 16 year old US citizen from colorado, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awla... . See also the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix executive program in general.
- iluvcommunism 1mo ago[dead]
- victorbjorklund 1mo agoAre American citizens always innocent? From what I have seen many Americans are guilty of a lot of bad stuff.
- xanthor 1mo agoUntil proven guilty, yes they are always innocent.
- victorbjorklund 1mo agoThat is true for all people. Not just Americans. It’s just disgusting to say that all Americans are innocent but we can assume others are guilty. As far as I know Bin Laden was killed without ever being tried in a criminal court. Are school shooters in America innocent if they are killed before getting a trial?
- xanthor 1mo agoI’m speaking with regards to the American legal system. Yes the endless foreign wars are also unconstitutional.
- victorbjorklund 1mo agoBut do you think it was wrong to kill Bin Ladin since you see him as innocent since he didn’t have his day in court?
- superkuh 1mo agoBin Laden was indicted in a court of law multiple times for multiple crimes over a decade. The evidence presented was clear. https://www.internationalcrimesdatabase.org/Case/947/Bin-Laden-et-al/ https://www.internationalcrimesdatabase.org/Case/947/Bin-Lad... None of these disposition matrix assassinations ever had evidence against them presented in court. The terrorists in the executive branch and their terrorist enforcers in the military just assassinated them without trial.
- xanthor 1mo agoYes. Why should I believe he was guilty of anything? The fair and balanced media said so?
- superkuh 1mo agoThis american citizen minor certainly was. And the claim of collateral damage is already shown false by the fact that they went after the kid (16 years old) intentionally, twice. Even after they knew his father was already dead. Oh, and by the way, they never indicted the father or showed evidence against the father either. Neither were in a war zone of any sort. The other examples on the second wikipedia link were literally non-US citizen journalists who later sued the US in a US federal court he brought where he showed up and wasn't arrested because he didn't do anything wrong. I'm with you that being a US citizen doesn't mean someone is "good". But in this case I've literally given non-US citizen examples too that you passed over for this mistargeted aside.
- victorbjorklund 1mo agoI am just against this racist thing where it is worse to kill an American citizen than a non-citizen.
- superkuh 1mo agoGot it. That's definitely not what I meant. And I understand wanting to make your distinction clear.
- Sabinus 1mo agoWhy are you citing these as cases of terrorism and murder when the American citizen wasn't the target? Collateral damage happens in missile strikes.