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You can also change the writing style with a prompt quit easily, if the same person would publish millions of articles, we would also recognize them.

PunchTornado 1mo ago
I don't understand. do you think that people can't figure it out if they speak with llms or not from a few turns?
- quantumspandex 1mo ago
  We don't train current LLMs to mimic the average human's writing style. We train it to be smart, helpful, and knowledgable, too knowledgeable for a human. We can easily train a LLM to pass the Turing test if we wanted to, but then it would just sound dumb or biased.
  - guelo 1mo ago
    There is tons of money trying to get customer support bots to sound human but they fool nobody.
  - throwatdem12311 1mo ago
    > but it would just sound dumb or biased We have one of those: Grok.
    - hobofan 1mo ago
      Yes, and it's indistinguishable from the average X user.
      - throwatdem12311 1mo ago
        Bold of you to assume they’re actual users.
  - virgilp 1mo ago
    > We can easily train a LLM to pass the Turing test if we wanted to, but then it would just sound dumb or biased. Interesting idea. "This is not dumb and biased enough, probably not a human".
throwatdem12311 1mo ago
The Turing Test is about being able to figure out if “someone” is a computer during a short conversation, not “millions of articles”. LLMs still live in the uncanny valley and can be sussed out immediately. For example, I’m extremely annoyed by the fact that offshore developers respond to me almost exclusively using text generated by Claude. You can tell immediately because they use overly descriptive techno word salad that no normal human uses unless they are trying to be ultra specific for a scientific paper - and even then it’s still too much for a real person.
- pinkgolem 1mo ago
  My argument is, you recognize the style because you know it.. 5 years ago, you would not have been able to determine that this was the case, and just have assumed it's a know it all character. Tell your offshore developers to use caveman or so

PunchTornado 1mo ago

I don't understand. do you think that people can't figure it out if they speak with llms or not from a few turns?

quantumspandex 1mo ago
We don't train current LLMs to mimic the average human's writing style. We train it to be smart, helpful, and knowledgable, too knowledgeable for a human. We can easily train a LLM to pass the Turing test if we wanted to, but then it would just sound dumb or biased.
- guelo 1mo ago
  There is tons of money trying to get customer support bots to sound human but they fool nobody.
- throwatdem12311 1mo ago
  > but it would just sound dumb or biased We have one of those: Grok.
  - hobofan 1mo ago
    Yes, and it's indistinguishable from the average X user.
    - throwatdem12311 1mo ago
      Bold of you to assume they’re actual users.
- virgilp 1mo ago
  > We can easily train a LLM to pass the Turing test if we wanted to, but then it would just sound dumb or biased. Interesting idea. "This is not dumb and biased enough, probably not a human".

throwatdem12311 1mo ago

The Turing Test is about being able to figure out if “someone” is a computer during a short conversation, not “millions of articles”. LLMs still live in the uncanny valley and can be sussed out immediately. For example, I’m extremely annoyed by the fact that offshore developers respond to me almost exclusively using text generated by Claude. You can tell immediately because they use overly descriptive techno word salad that no normal human uses unless they are trying to be ultra specific for a scientific paper - and even then it’s still too much for a real person.

pinkgolem 1mo ago
My argument is, you recognize the style because you know it.. 5 years ago, you would not have been able to determine that this was the case, and just have assumed it's a know it all character. Tell your offshore developers to use caveman or so