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So, while it's true that your runs with high speed and distance when both are considered are Pareto points, your max speed run and max distance run overall are
by voidhorse 1mo ago
So, while it's true that your runs with high speed and distance when both are considered are Pareto points, your max speed run and max distance run overall are also Pareto points. So calling these high distance+speed runs "Pareto" doesn't actually distinguish them completely from other runs.
A point is Pareto so long as it is non-dominated—that is, you're not looking for dominating points, you're looking for points that are "no worse" than all others, in all criteria, when you consider that point as a reference.
So your Pareto Runs are indeed Pareto points. However, your run with your fastest possible speed, even if your distance was really bad, is also still a Pareto efficient point.
(Taking >= as more efficient here) By definition, the point A is Pareto if there is no point B such that in all criteria, B >= A, and for at least one criteria B > A. Take the run with the best speed. It is Pareto because we cannot find a single point B that satisfies both of these conditions. Your "Pareto Run" doesn't satisfy this set of conditions because it is worse in terms of speed, even if it has better distance than the max speed point.
The only way your Pareto runs would be the only Pareto points in your record is if they simultaneously hit maxima for distance and speed when compared to all other points. So, for them to be the sole Pareto point, the clause ""I've run farther before, and I've run faster before..." would have to be false! The point would have to break both your all time records to be the solitary Pareto point. With running, because of how speed and distance are related this will basically never happen.
The definition of Pareto efficiency is essentially negative in nature--it's not about finding specific dominating points, it's about finding points that are not dominated by any others on any criterion, period. All criteria are weighted equally in the search for Pareto points. It doesn't build in any weighting like considering maximum across criteria as "better" than points that only maximize one criteria. For a "biobjective" problem like your runs, the Pareto set will always contain the points (MAX, -) and (-, MAX)--they may not be unique over the criteria but there will always be at least one representative for each, I believe.
- speedstyle 1mo agoThey never said it was the only Pareto run? Just a new one, improving the overall Pareto front
- voidhorse 1mo agoUgh, you're right! I read too quickly. Please disregard me OP. I'll leave the comment here just in case it clarifies things for poor readers such as myself lol.