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if you track their 5 year stock price you'll find the market fully agrees with you. It was $458 in 2021 and is $112 now. The market caught on quickly that Atl

if you track their 5 year stock price you'll find the market fully agrees with you. It was $458 in 2021 and is $112 now. The market caught on quickly that Atlassian's software fits into the group of software like Oracle or SAP that no one uses by choice and only uses because it was forced on them.

shagie 1mo ago
> ... Many forms of issue tracking have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that Jira is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that Jira is the worst of the issue trackers except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time; but there is the broad feeling in our company that the people should track, continuously track, and that client opinion, expressed by all project management means, should shape, guide, and control the actions of management who are their masters and not their servants. ... -- Churchill, House of Commons, 11 November 1947
- chollida1 1mo ago
  Wrong thread??
  - shagie 1mo ago
    No. I was adjusting a classic quote about something that is decried as awful and no one wants to do... except all the other alternatives are worse. It's not so much that people want to use Jira... or that they're forced to use it... but rather that people try using some other system and despite how much they dislike Jira, that other one has bigger failings. Could go for a Bjarne Stroustrup quote with a twist: > There are only two kinds of issue trackers: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses. ... but I like the Churchill quote. Go through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue-tracking_systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue-tracking_s... and after a year they'll be begging to go back to Jira... not because its great, but because the other tool lacks some necessary feature that Jira provides. Jira does everything that everyone wants, and it's awful... but everything else is worse.

shagie 1mo ago

> ... Many forms of issue tracking have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that Jira is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that Jira is the worst of the issue trackers except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time; but there is the broad feeling in our company that the people should track, continuously track, and that client opinion, expressed by all project management means, should shape, guide, and control the actions of management who are their masters and not their servants. ... -- Churchill, House of Commons, 11 November 1947

chollida1 1mo ago
Wrong thread??
- shagie 1mo ago
  No. I was adjusting a classic quote about something that is decried as awful and no one wants to do... except all the other alternatives are worse. It's not so much that people want to use Jira... or that they're forced to use it... but rather that people try using some other system and despite how much they dislike Jira, that other one has bigger failings. Could go for a Bjarne Stroustrup quote with a twist: > There are only two kinds of issue trackers: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses. ... but I like the Churchill quote. Go through https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue-tracking_systems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue-tracking_s... and after a year they'll be begging to go back to Jira... not because its great, but because the other tool lacks some necessary feature that Jira provides. Jira does everything that everyone wants, and it's awful... but everything else is worse.