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New 64-bit Operating System released

40 points by losethos 18y ago

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habibur 18y ago
> LoseThos will never have full networking support with an Internet browser, etc. Maybe I don't understand what the author is targetting, but even an embeded system without Internet and browser these days is useless.
- losethos 18y ago
  It's a supplemental operating system -- a new concept. You use Windows or Linux as your primary operating system and LoseThos for screwing around programming. Believe it or not, people used home computers before the Internet.
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- ramchip 18y ago
  A vending machine, a toy robot, a DSP device... they're all embedded and they don't require networking. Although AFAIK most of these devices don't use x86_64...
  - Xichekolas 18y ago
    I would argue that most new vending machines and toy robots need networking. Vending machines use it for credit card auth, and lots of kids toys (certainly a robot) communicate with a PC/website nowdays. But yeah, I'm sure there exist plenty of devices that don't need networking. Pardon me for picking nits.
- timf 18y ago
  The page says that it is targetted at games: "LoseThos is primarily for making video games. It has no networking or Internet support. As far as I'm concerned, that would be reinventing the wheel and you can do that instead by dual booting another operating system. Similarly, it's not for desktop publishing or multimedia."
  - jcl 18y ago
    Given that quote, a lack of network support is a little surprising. Why limit yourself to single-player games?
artificer 18y ago
Although at it's current state it is probably useless, it's impressive considering it's a one man project.
illumen 18y ago
i love this. I8 how_much; for(i=0; i < 1000000;i+=2) how_much += i; coutln "awesome\r\n";
- ramchip 18y ago
  coutln "Brillant!" ...pardon me.
markessien 18y ago
This is a waste of good talent. There are so many areas to innovate in that require talented programmers such as: - parallel computing - robotics - AI - Balancing, Control algorithms - Speech processing - Vision processing and so much more. If you're good enough to do all that, they why go start all over from the front instead of just building on top of what we already have and trying to solve the hard problems? Your systems programming knowledge combined with some hardware good give us some impressive things. An OS without any networking support and that comes delivered with adverts is not innovate, and it is not going to be particularly useful for us. There will always be stamp collectors, but it would have been sad if Einstein devoted his talents solely towards collecting stamps. Sorry for saying it the way I see it, but if everybody always tries to be nice, you'll never hear the truth.
- rkowalick 18y ago
  Should one not study the geometry of Euclid, despite it being a "waste of good talent?" I mean, learning 2000 year old mathematics will not innovate or contribute to modern mathematics, right? People will do and learn things for their intrinsic value, and dismissing the act of learning because it doesn't benefit the rest of a field misses the point of gaining knowledge.
- ibsulon 18y ago
  I believe the point was he did this in his spare time for fun, with no expectations of anyone using it. There is no novel work in this, which would be consistent with a hobby project rather than doing brain-draining work in one's spare time.
- almost 18y ago
  Exactly! What's he doing programming just for the fun of i? He's not being serious! Down with fun! Seriously though, this is a hobby project with an express purpose of being fun. I'm sure there's also a lot to be learnt from it (by the author and by others) but that doesn't seem to be its primary goal. There is never anything wrong with doing something just for the fun of it. If everyone though like your comment reads the world would be a worse place.
- old-gregg 18y ago
yesimahuman 18y ago
I really like the idea of embedding images and media into a source file for documentation purposes. Has this ever been done?
- jcl 18y ago
  Mathematica's notebook files come to mind, as does Donald Knuth's literate programming work. DrScheme lets you insert images into the program text directly: http://maclab.cs.uchicago.edu/tutorials/DrScheme.html#_Adding_an_Image http://maclab.cs.uchicago.edu/tutorials/DrScheme.html#_Addin...
- yesimahuman 18y ago
  Of course, I would most certainly be too lazy to actually add any images :)
- thwarted 18y ago
  While it would definitely help the long term documentation purposes of something you don't plan on having to modify, my knee jerk response is that we, as an industry, already have problems getting comments and documentation updated properly when they are in text -- media and images are harder to update.
abdulhaq 18y ago
When Bill Gates told his son that he would have to start from scratch, I don't think he had _this_ in mind...
lunk 18y ago
I can't help thinking this is the same guy from "You suck at Photoshop". It's kind of like his voice with some hacker version of "The Network is Down". I wasn't convinced it was a real project ;)

40 points by losethos 18y ago

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> LoseThos will never have full networking support with an Internet browser, etc. Maybe I don't understand what the author is targetting, but even an embeded system without Internet and browser these days is useless.

losethos 18y ago
It's a supplemental operating system -- a new concept. You use Windows or Linux as your primary operating system and LoseThos for screwing around programming. Believe it or not, people used home computers before the Internet.
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ramchip 18y ago
A vending machine, a toy robot, a DSP device... they're all embedded and they don't require networking. Although AFAIK most of these devices don't use x86_64...
- Xichekolas 18y ago
  I would argue that most new vending machines and toy robots need networking. Vending machines use it for credit card auth, and lots of kids toys (certainly a robot) communicate with a PC/website nowdays. But yeah, I'm sure there exist plenty of devices that don't need networking. Pardon me for picking nits.
timf 18y ago
The page says that it is targetted at games: "LoseThos is primarily for making video games. It has no networking or Internet support. As far as I'm concerned, that would be reinventing the wheel and you can do that instead by dual booting another operating system. Similarly, it's not for desktop publishing or multimedia."
- jcl 18y ago
  Given that quote, a lack of network support is a little surprising. Why limit yourself to single-player games?

artificer 18y ago

Although at it's current state it is probably useless, it's impressive considering it's a one man project.

illumen 18y ago

i love this. I8 how_much; for(i=0; i < 1000000;i+=2) how_much += i; coutln "awesome\r\n";

ramchip 18y ago
coutln "Brillant!" ...pardon me.

markessien 18y ago

This is a waste of good talent. There are so many areas to innovate in that require talented programmers such as: - parallel computing - robotics - AI - Balancing, Control algorithms - Speech processing - Vision processing and so much more. If you're good enough to do all that, they why go start all over from the front instead of just building on top of what we already have and trying to solve the hard problems? Your systems programming knowledge combined with some hardware good give us some impressive things. An OS without any networking support and that comes delivered with adverts is not innovate, and it is not going to be particularly useful for us. There will always be stamp collectors, but it would have been sad if Einstein devoted his talents solely towards collecting stamps. Sorry for saying it the way I see it, but if everybody always tries to be nice, you'll never hear the truth.

rkowalick 18y ago
Should one not study the geometry of Euclid, despite it being a "waste of good talent?" I mean, learning 2000 year old mathematics will not innovate or contribute to modern mathematics, right? People will do and learn things for their intrinsic value, and dismissing the act of learning because it doesn't benefit the rest of a field misses the point of gaining knowledge.
ibsulon 18y ago
I believe the point was he did this in his spare time for fun, with no expectations of anyone using it. There is no novel work in this, which would be consistent with a hobby project rather than doing brain-draining work in one's spare time.
almost 18y ago
Exactly! What's he doing programming just for the fun of i? He's not being serious! Down with fun! Seriously though, this is a hobby project with an express purpose of being fun. I'm sure there's also a lot to be learnt from it (by the author and by others) but that doesn't seem to be its primary goal. There is never anything wrong with doing something just for the fun of it. If everyone though like your comment reads the world would be a worse place.
old-gregg 18y ago

yesimahuman 18y ago

I really like the idea of embedding images and media into a source file for documentation purposes. Has this ever been done?

jcl 18y ago
Mathematica's notebook files come to mind, as does Donald Knuth's literate programming work. DrScheme lets you insert images into the program text directly: http://maclab.cs.uchicago.edu/tutorials/DrScheme.html#_Adding_an_Image http://maclab.cs.uchicago.edu/tutorials/DrScheme.html#_Addin...
yesimahuman 18y ago
Of course, I would most certainly be too lazy to actually add any images :)
thwarted 18y ago
While it would definitely help the long term documentation purposes of something you don't plan on having to modify, my knee jerk response is that we, as an industry, already have problems getting comments and documentation updated properly when they are in text -- media and images are harder to update.

abdulhaq 18y ago

When Bill Gates told his son that he would have to start from scratch, I don't think he had _this_ in mind...

lunk 18y ago

I can't help thinking this is the same guy from "You suck at Photoshop". It's kind of like his voice with some hacker version of "The Network is Down". I wasn't convinced it was a real project ;)