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The new Audi Q9 is absurd - https://www.topgear.com/car-news/suvs/gargantuan-new-audi-q9-officially-too-large-london https://www.topgear.com/car-news/suvs/garga

The new Audi Q9 is absurd - https://www.topgear.com/car-news/suvs/gargantuan-new-audi-q9-officially-too-large-london https://www.topgear.com/car-news/suvs/gargantuan-new-audi-q9...

pseudohadamard 2mo ago
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- lotsofpulp 1mo ago
  That kind of discourse is welcome to stay on Reddit.
  - crote 1mo ago
    Don't like a comment? No need to complain, just downvote or flag. > Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - chrystalkey 1mo ago
    Oh Look, there is a tree sized pole that sticks out of your rear side, might want to have a doctor look at it
bitwize 1mo ago
And yet still in the standard "Jeep Grand Cherokee melted in the sun" shape. I wouldn't mind so much if the popular land yachts of decades past like the 1957 Cadillac Eldorado were revived, but today's most common passenger vehicles are still being made in the same boring sad-beige-mom shapes.
cpursley 1mo ago
What’s even more absurd is the Chinese vehicles in the same class have better tech and prices. German auto manufacturing is cooked unless they manage to legally block the Chinese in their primary markets.
- shiandow 1mo ago
  That could be tricky because I think one of those markets was China.
- wackget 1mo ago
  I'd happily drive a Chinese car but I've yet to see one which has physical buttons for controls. They all seem to have gigantic tablet displays. I categorically refuse to buy a car where I can't adjust the climate controls while keeping my eyes on the road.
- wolvoleo 1mo ago
  Well of course they are cheaper because China has much lower labour costs and they prop up their own industry. The same way they did with solar panels which killed the local EU industry for those. However we can get one back at China and help our own climate goals more by not buying cars at all
  - cpursley 1mo ago
    How do lower labor costs explain the better tech?
    - wolvoleo 1mo ago
      Engineers are also cheaper, and electronics are cheaper so you can throw more at the problem. You have much less pressure to design towards a price if your costs are lower.
      - cpursley 1mo ago
        Well, of course this does not check out. Apple trounces Chinese phone manufacturers at all levels and their costs are astronomical.
vel0city 1mo ago
Eh. Old American sedans were often longer. A '77 Ford LTD was almost 5.5M in length, while this is only 5.3. I guess I do agree those were insane monsters of vehicles. I couldn't imagine driving one of those today in urban areas.
- frollogaston 1mo ago
  Apparently my 2009 Crown Vic is slightly longer than this Audi. I get more annoyed at how tall modern cars are.
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netsharc 1mo ago
Sheesh! > 5.31m long, 2.21m wide and 1.81m tall vs. the Humvee, according to Wikipedia: - 4.57m long, 2.15m wide and 1.83m tall

The new Audi Q9 is absurd - https://www.topgear.com/car-news/suvs/gargantuan-new-audi-q9-officially-too-large-london https://www.topgear.com/car-news/suvs/gargantuan-new-audi-q9...

pseudohadamard 2mo ago

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lotsofpulp 1mo ago
That kind of discourse is welcome to stay on Reddit.
- crote 1mo ago
  Don't like a comment? No need to complain, just downvote or flag. > Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- chrystalkey 1mo ago
  Oh Look, there is a tree sized pole that sticks out of your rear side, might want to have a doctor look at it

bitwize 1mo ago

And yet still in the standard "Jeep Grand Cherokee melted in the sun" shape. I wouldn't mind so much if the popular land yachts of decades past like the 1957 Cadillac Eldorado were revived, but today's most common passenger vehicles are still being made in the same boring sad-beige-mom shapes.

cpursley 1mo ago

What’s even more absurd is the Chinese vehicles in the same class have better tech and prices. German auto manufacturing is cooked unless they manage to legally block the Chinese in their primary markets.

shiandow 1mo ago
That could be tricky because I think one of those markets was China.
wackget 1mo ago
I'd happily drive a Chinese car but I've yet to see one which has physical buttons for controls. They all seem to have gigantic tablet displays. I categorically refuse to buy a car where I can't adjust the climate controls while keeping my eyes on the road.
wolvoleo 1mo ago
Well of course they are cheaper because China has much lower labour costs and they prop up their own industry. The same way they did with solar panels which killed the local EU industry for those. However we can get one back at China and help our own climate goals more by not buying cars at all
- cpursley 1mo ago
  How do lower labor costs explain the better tech?
  - wolvoleo 1mo ago
    Engineers are also cheaper, and electronics are cheaper so you can throw more at the problem. You have much less pressure to design towards a price if your costs are lower.
    - cpursley 1mo ago
      Well, of course this does not check out. Apple trounces Chinese phone manufacturers at all levels and their costs are astronomical.

vel0city 1mo ago

Eh. Old American sedans were often longer. A '77 Ford LTD was almost 5.5M in length, while this is only 5.3. I guess I do agree those were insane monsters of vehicles. I couldn't imagine driving one of those today in urban areas.

frollogaston 1mo ago
Apparently my 2009 Crown Vic is slightly longer than this Audi. I get more annoyed at how tall modern cars are.

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netsharc 1mo ago

Sheesh! > 5.31m long, 2.21m wide and 1.81m tall vs. the Humvee, according to Wikipedia: - 4.57m long, 2.15m wide and 1.83m tall