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If you insist on still not reading the article I can't help you further. The plant also has no batteries, so whether batteries are dirty or not is completely be

by WJW 2mo ago

If you insist on still not reading the article I can't help you further. The plant also has no batteries, so whether batteries are dirty or not is completely besides the point. It just scales up and down the electrolysers as power is more or less available. Wind is actually one of the easiest green energy technologies to understand. In windy locations like Minnesota, the wind blows well over half of the time. Over 25% of the state's electricity was from electricity back in 2023 already. It will have increased further by now. And anyone asking "why reduce your reliance on other nations" surely has not paying a lot of attention in 2026. Most of the world is scrambling to reduce reliance on imported fossil fuels after the Straight of Hormuz closed. Reducing reliance on on other imported critical resources like chips and rare earths is near the top of the priority list of all the major policy blocks in the world. The assumption that you can always import enough ammonia from elsewhere is a risky gamble.

kulahan 2mo ago
Y-yeah, that’s my point. The fact that there are no batteries means that instead of considering how it operates with a dirty battery (the only other option here), we consider how it works without any reliability. Of course wind is green. It’s one of the simplest techs out there. It’s just mostly worthless if you don’t live in a wind tunnel. Even then, it’s unreliable. At best, as I said, this is a funsie project so Minnesota doesn’t have to buy from, say, Texas. I don’t think Minnesota is avoiding any international conflicts here, but maybe I’ve missed something. How would an unreliable fertilizer station get you away from conflicts anyways? “Well Tuesday was windy so we didn’t need to go to war for it, but today it’s dead so let’s bomb Iran” lol. If you think the strait of Hormuz conflict is some reason for every nation to leave behind globalism, I don’t think you understand the whole idea behind globalism. It’s not that there will never be issues. It’s that we face them together.

by WJW 2mo ago

kulahan 2mo ago

Y-yeah, that’s my point. The fact that there are no batteries means that instead of considering how it operates with a dirty battery (the only other option here), we consider how it works without any reliability. Of course wind is green. It’s one of the simplest techs out there. It’s just mostly worthless if you don’t live in a wind tunnel. Even then, it’s unreliable. At best, as I said, this is a funsie project so Minnesota doesn’t have to buy from, say, Texas. I don’t think Minnesota is avoiding any international conflicts here, but maybe I’ve missed something. How would an unreliable fertilizer station get you away from conflicts anyways? “Well Tuesday was windy so we didn’t need to go to war for it, but today it’s dead so let’s bomb Iran” lol. If you think the strait of Hormuz conflict is some reason for every nation to leave behind globalism, I don’t think you understand the whole idea behind globalism. It’s not that there will never be issues. It’s that we face them together.