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We already have human intelligence. Creating new humans is easy (and fun) The only reason to emulate human intelligence is to capture it, exploit it, and reduc

We already have human intelligence. Creating new humans is easy (and fun) The only reason to emulate human intelligence is to capture it, exploit it, and reduce the negotiating power of those who have it naturally. Anyone who wants this is not a friend of human beings

Marha01 2mo ago
> Creating new humans is easy (and fun) This could not be further from the truth. Creating a new educated, competent human takes ~25 years, and significant costs and resources. AGI can be just copy-pasted at essentially no cost. Even a robot that is mass-produced for tens of thousands of dollars is still much less expensive and takes much less time to make than a competent human.
- la64710 2mo ago
  But it is more than just fun , it gives purpose to our existence … pardon me but it is idiotic to look at bringing up a child so objectively.
  - Marha01 2mo ago
    Yes, but I think we should separate human economic value from the true purpose of our existence. If AI can replace us in economically valuable tasks, we will have no choice but to do so. The economic value part should be looked at objectively.
    - memonkey 2mo ago
      What is the true purpose of our existence?
      - Marha01 2mo ago
        That is a very good question, perhaps without an objective answer. But it's definitely not a 9-5 job, at least for me.
- goatlover 2mo ago
  Except there's already billions of humans with millions becoming competent humans every year. Also the machine analogy breaks down in some ways for biological organisms. It's messier, more complex and organisms weren't designed for a purpose. There is no software humans are running. That's just a metaphor for whatever the brain & nervous system (throughout the body) does.
anonymous_sorry 2mo ago
I do mostly agree with you, but... > Creating new humans is easy If you did a survey I suspect agreement with this statement would be rather bimodal.
- zero_shift 2mo ago
  That's fair. It starts easy, then gets difficult.

Marha01 2mo ago

> Creating new humans is easy (and fun) This could not be further from the truth. Creating a new educated, competent human takes ~25 years, and significant costs and resources. AGI can be just copy-pasted at essentially no cost. Even a robot that is mass-produced for tens of thousands of dollars is still much less expensive and takes much less time to make than a competent human.

la64710 2mo ago
But it is more than just fun , it gives purpose to our existence … pardon me but it is idiotic to look at bringing up a child so objectively.
- Marha01 2mo ago
  Yes, but I think we should separate human economic value from the true purpose of our existence. If AI can replace us in economically valuable tasks, we will have no choice but to do so. The economic value part should be looked at objectively.
  - memonkey 2mo ago
    What is the true purpose of our existence?
    - Marha01 2mo ago
      That is a very good question, perhaps without an objective answer. But it's definitely not a 9-5 job, at least for me.
goatlover 2mo ago
Except there's already billions of humans with millions becoming competent humans every year. Also the machine analogy breaks down in some ways for biological organisms. It's messier, more complex and organisms weren't designed for a purpose. There is no software humans are running. That's just a metaphor for whatever the brain & nervous system (throughout the body) does.

anonymous_sorry 2mo ago

I do mostly agree with you, but... > Creating new humans is easy If you did a survey I suspect agreement with this statement would be rather bimodal.

zero_shift 2mo ago
That's fair. It starts easy, then gets difficult.