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And a husband who works and his wife who doesn't, should she get a vote? The commentators here are responding exactly to the spirit of what was said, there's no

by mrwh 2mo ago

And a husband who works and his wife who doesn't, should she get a vote? The commentators here are responding exactly to the spirit of what was said, there's no confusion on what's really being implied here. Namely, the destruction of the entire basis of democracy, which is one person one vote. Another way to express the general disgust: that proposal is saying, "we're going to take away your power, but we'll still look after you, pinky promise!"

MarkusQ 2mo ago
> the entire basis of democracy, which is one person one vote This is a relatively recent innovation; most democracies throughout history have not had this property, so it's hardly the "entire basis" of the concept. It is, however, an interesting and possibly worth goal. The obvious problem (which has been noted by many previously) is that when the people making the decisions are not the ones paying for it the system is unstable (e.g. "three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner", also "eventually you run out of other people's money"). This is a serious issue and possibly the biggest present threat to our current system. It's worth considering various possible solutions and thinking about what might work and what would likely lead to ruin. If discussing these issue triggers "disgust" you may want to question if you are actually thinking about what is being said or just reacting emotionally.
- nozzlegear 2mo ago
  The billionaires are the sheep, and people with less than $100k in annual income are the wolves in this contrived scenario? > This is a serious issue and possibly the biggest present threat to our current system Is it?
fhdkweig 2mo ago
I've already heard discussions in the last year that married women shouldn't vote. Their husbands would cast two votes. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22household+voting%22 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22household+voting%22

by mrwh 2mo ago

MarkusQ 2mo ago

> the entire basis of democracy, which is one person one vote This is a relatively recent innovation; most democracies throughout history have not had this property, so it's hardly the "entire basis" of the concept. It is, however, an interesting and possibly worth goal. The obvious problem (which has been noted by many previously) is that when the people making the decisions are not the ones paying for it the system is unstable (e.g. "three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner", also "eventually you run out of other people's money"). This is a serious issue and possibly the biggest present threat to our current system. It's worth considering various possible solutions and thinking about what might work and what would likely lead to ruin. If discussing these issue triggers "disgust" you may want to question if you are actually thinking about what is being said or just reacting emotionally.

nozzlegear 2mo ago
The billionaires are the sheep, and people with less than $100k in annual income are the wolves in this contrived scenario? > This is a serious issue and possibly the biggest present threat to our current system Is it?

fhdkweig 2mo ago

I've already heard discussions in the last year that married women shouldn't vote. Their husbands would cast two votes. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22household+voting%22 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22household+voting%22